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Thread ID: 138253 2014-10-30 05:07:00 Well Done National -- people who voted for them DONT complain wainuitech (129) PC World Chat
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1387220 2014-11-09 03:55:00 National Party supporters have some very creative ways of dealing with statistics so let’s look at the facts.

Firstly, there were 3,140,417 people eligible to vote.

Secondly, National polled 1,131,501 of those votes.

Which doesn’t give them an overwhelming majority at all.

It gives them only 36.03% of the possible vote, hardly an overwhelming mandate unless you’re a Spin Doctor because 63.96% didn’t vote for them.

There saviour was Labour imploding and self-destroying.

I think Labour, as we knew it, have consigned themselves to the history books, because there are still factions fighting over party policy with no sign of agreement.


Really, the only thing I can agree with you there is that which you said about Labour.

On the rest, you cannot say 36% is not a majority.
We have in effect 5 main parties, National, Labour, Greens, NZ First, Act and Maori Party. (we'll ignore the rest for now)
That's 3,140,417 people divided by a possible 5 = 628,083.4 votes per party if given even shares.
(Now lets eliminate Act and Maori Party just for fun) = approx. 1,046,800 votes per party if split evenly.

As you posted National polled 1,131,501 of those votes, which is clearly a majority share either way you look at it.
Krakka (17266)
1387221 2014-11-09 03:59:00 On the rest, you cannot say 36% is not a majority.

Yes you can (en.wiktionary.org) ;)


More than half (50%) of some group
pcuser42 (130)
1387222 2014-11-09 04:01:00 [/B]


Our small country supports an infrastructure vastly superior to many more populated cities overseas. But we have a national roading system, public transport, a national Airline. Yes, there are many areas of improvement we would like, but overall as a country we punch well above our weight.

Without being complacent about our ranking No 3, let's not forget that achievement. There's still work in progress.

:)

Speaking about punching above our weight, can I just add 2 words? ALL BLACKS
Krakka (17266)
1387223 2014-11-09 04:07:00 Yes you can (en.wiktionary.org) ;)

Actually, you can't : (en.wiktionary.org)

Usage notes

Majority in the sense of "more than half" is used with countable nouns only; for example, "The majority of the members of the committee were in favour of the motion." It is incorrect to use with it uncountable nouns, as in "The majority of the world is covered with water." In the latter case, it is preferable to use expressions such as "the larger part of" or "most of" instead of the "the majority of",


(mathematics) Incapable of being put into one-to-one correspondence with the natural numbers or any subset thereof.

;)
Krakka (17266)
1387224 2014-11-09 04:32:00 A party with only one MP is not a party and should not have some paid as a leader they are a one man band and should bow out gracefully, therefore we actually only have 3 main parties Nats (lead by a dictator) Labour (lead by no one) Greens with weird policies gary67 (56)
1387225 2014-11-09 05:02:00 National Party supporters have some very creative ways of dealing with statistics so let’s look at the facts .

Firstly, there were 3,140,417 people eligible to vote .

Secondly, National polled 1,131,501 of those votes .

Which doesn’t give them an overwhelming majority at all .

It gives them only 36 . 03% of the possible vote, hardly an overwhelming mandate unless you’re a Spin Doctor because 63 . 96% didn’t vote for them .

There saviour was Labour imploding and self-destroying .

I think Labour, as we knew it, have consigned themselves to the history books, because there are still factions fighting over party policy with no sign of agreement .


By your maths we could also extrapolate the results out to show that Labour won 19 . 25% of the vote .

Therefore, 81 . 75% didn't vote for Labour .

If you calculate the results based on the actual number of voters that turned out, you get the correct result .

Only 2 . 416M votes were cast . Probably indicating that the Labour/Green voters woke up and saw it wasn't a very nice day, so stayed in bed .

The National voters probably voted on the way to, or way home from work .

Ken ;)
kenj (9738)
1387226 2014-11-09 05:31:00 Could be worthwhile if those really wanting to know how the conclusions were reached had a look at the site's

Methodology ( . com/#!/methodology" target="_blank">prosperity . com)

I'm sure the world's banks, economists, and governments would be pleased to know should this methodology not withstand scrutiny . . .

Thank you for the Link Wal .

I took the trouble to investigate further, given I'd never heard of them, and doubt very much their findings would play a part in Banks, Economists, or Government operations .

You see they seem to be some hocus-pocus outfit that operates as a charity which somewhat diminishes their credibility .

"The Legatum Institute Foundation is a registered charity (number 1140719), and a company limited by guarantee and incorporated in England and Wales (company number 7430903), registered address 11 Charles Street, London, W1J 5DW" :crying
B.M. (505)
1387227 2014-11-09 06:19:00 Statistics = a bunch of figures hanging around looking for a fight. Zippity (58)
1387228 2014-11-09 06:36:00 Really, the only thing I can agree with you there is that which you said about Labour.

As you posted National polled 1,131,501 of those votes, which is clearly a majority share either way you look at it.

Ok, let’s keep it simple and leave Politics out of it.

Most people would agree there are 24hrs in a day.

The sun shines for 12hrs.

Is that 50% of the day or 100% or what?
B.M. (505)
1387229 2014-11-09 07:07:00 Thank you for the Link Wal.

I took the trouble to investigate further, given I'd never heard of them, and doubt very much their findings would play a part in Banks, Economists, or Government operations.

You see they seem to be some hocus-pocus outfit that operates as a charity which somewhat diminishes their credibility.

"The Legatum Institute Foundation is a registered charity (number 1140719), and a company limited by guarantee and incorporated in England and Wales (company number 7430903), registered address 11 Charles Street, London, W1J 5DW" :crying

For these purposes, Charity = usually a non profit organisation for legal / taxation reasons i.e. not necessaily reliant on donations to stay afloat.
WalOne (4202)
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