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Thread ID: 138253 2014-10-30 05:07:00 Well Done National -- people who voted for them DONT complain wainuitech (129) PC World Chat
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1387210 2014-11-09 01:41:00 TPP: Australia, Brunei Darussalam, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, the United States, and Vietnam.

Plenty of other nations coming on board, besides the original three. Makes for better trade one would have thought.

Lurking. 		Lurking (218)
1387211 2014-11-09 01:45:00 Sorry to all our resident whingers and whiners, but I'd prefer to hear about how well we as a country are doing - as reported by the Legatum Institute.


The Legatum Institute is a charitable public policy think-tank whose mission is to help people lead more prosperous lives. The Institute defines prosperity as wellbeing, not just wealth. Its Legatum Prosperity Index™ assesses a wide range of indicators including education, health, social capital, entrepreneurship and personal freedom to rank 142 countries. Published annually, the Index has become an essential tool for governments around the world.

Through research programmes including The Culture of Prosperity, Transitions Forum, and the Economics of Prosperity, the Institute seeks to understand what drives and restrains national success and individual flourishing. The Institute co-publishes with Foreign Policymagazine, the Democracy Lab, whose on-the-ground journalists report on political transitions around the world.

The Legatum Institute is based in London and an independent member of the Legatum Group, a private investment group with a 27 year heritage of global investment in businesses and programmes that promote sustainable human development.

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According to Legatum, we rank 3rd overall (up from 5th place in 2013) out of 142 nations judged on 8 areas:

Economy 15th
Entrepreneurship 18th
Governance 2nd (sorry, "shon key" haters)
Education 7th
Health 20th
Safety & Security 10th
Personal Freedom 1st
Social Capital 2nd

Click HERE (prosperity.com) to see the full table.

Let's ignore those who complain for the sake of complaining, but at the same time let's be happy they are free to do so.

Our small country supports an infrastructure vastly superior to many more populated cities overseas. But we have a national roading system, public transport, a national Airline. Yes, there are many areas of improvement we would like, but overall as a country we punch well above our weight.

Without being complacent about our ranking No 3, let's not forget that achievement. There's still work in progress.

:) 		WalOne (4202)
1387212 2014-11-09 01:47:00 National Party supporters have some very creative ways of dealing with statistics so let’s look at the facts.

Firstly, there were 3,140,417 people eligible to vote.

Secondly, National polled 1,131,501 of those votes.

Which doesn’t give them an overwhelming majority at all.

It gives them only 36.03% of the possible vote, hardly an overwhelming mandate unless you’re a Spin Doctor because 63.96% didn’t vote for them.

There saviour was Labour imploding and self-destroying.

I think Labour, as we knew it, have consigned themselves to the history books, because there are still factions fighting over party policy with no sign of agreement. 		B.M. (505)
1387213 2014-11-09 02:04:00 Economy 15th
Entrepreneurship 18th
Governance 2nd (sorry, "shon key" haters)
Education 7th
Health 20th
Safety & Security 10th
Personal Freedom 1st
Social Capital 2nd


Wal can you please explain how you can screw 3rd out of the figures you've provided? :confused: 		B.M. (505)
1387214 2014-11-09 02:21:00 Governance 2nd (sorry, "shon key" haters) One small thing you forgot to mention --- if you expand out the top 5, they have been exactly the same for the last two years, so theres no improvement/ movement from anyone.

The Answer to B.M's question will be interesting ? (waits)

Heres some facts from the link /chart:

Entrepreneurship & opportunity

18th ----2014
15th ----2013
13th ----2012

:horrified Hang on that's going backwards !! Care to explain that and how it can be good ? 		wainuitech (129)
1387215 2014-11-09 02:36:00 One small thing you forgot to mention --- if you expand out the top 5, they have been exactly the same for the last two years, so theres no improvement/ movement from anyone.

The Answer to B.M's question will be interesting ? (waits)

Heres some facts from the link /chart:

Entrepreneurship & opportunity

18th ----2014
15th ----2013
13th ----2012

:horrified Hang on that's going backwards !! Care to explain that and how it can be good ?

Well, that is a relative figure. So we could be improving, but others could just be improving faster.

Not ideal either way, but without knowing how they reach this ranking, or the reason behind out slip in placing, I wouldn't pass judgement. 		Nick G (16709)
1387216 2014-11-09 02:47:00 Could be worthwhile if those really wanting to know how the conclusions were reached had a look at the site's

Methodology (prosperity.com)

I'm sure the world's banks, economists, and governments would be pleased to know should this methodology not withstand scrutiny ... 		WalOne (4202)
1387217 2014-11-09 03:10:00 .

Firstly, there were 3,140,417 people eligible to vote.

Secondly, National polled 1,131,501 of those votes.

Which doesn’t give them an overwhelming majority at all.

It gives them only 36.03% of the possible vote, hardly an overwhelming mandate unless you’re a Spin Doctor because 63.96% didn’t vote for them.

There saviour was Labour imploding and self-destroying.

I think Labour, as we knew it, have consigned themselves to the history books, because there are still factions fighting over party policy with no sign of agreement.

One reason I love FPP, clear winners, just like sport, be a b******* if they all had MMP, I would have backed the American, England rugby teams over the ABs', they ABs' are a mixed bunch as well, lol.

Played many many sports, won some lost most, but no bitching about any of the outcomes from moi.

Lurking. 		Lurking (218)
1387218 2014-11-09 03:40:00 Maybe read and understand the new law before getting your knickers in a knot. That reporting is just the usual cut and paste job of a Union press release and has little to do with the real world employment conditions.

I second that.

For those too lazy to find out for themselves what the bill actually says, and instead choose to believe the unionist/Labourist lies and misinformation, (or worse yet, know what it says and choose to deceive everyone) here is a snippet for you to digest:

Rest breaks

The Bill provides for an employee’s entitlement to rest breaks and meal breaks, the timing and duration of the breaks, and compensatory measures. An employer must provide an employee with paid rest breaks and meal breaks that:

provide the employee with a reasonable opportunity for rest and refreshment and to attend to personal matters during the employee’s work period; and

are appropriate for the duration of the employee’s work period.

The Bill provides that the employee’s entitlement to rest breaks or meal breaks may be subject to restrictions, but only if:

the restrictions are reasonable and necessary, having regard to the nature of the employee’s work; or

if not reasonable and necessary, the restrictions are reasonable and agreed to by the employer and the employee (in an employment agreement or otherwise).

Where an employer and employee cannot agree on when the employee is to take his or her breaks or on the duration of the breaks, the employer may specify reasonable times and durations that, having regard to the employer’s operational environment or resources and the employee’s interests, enable the employer to maintain continuity of service or production. Provision is made for compensatory measures.

An employer is exempt from the requirement to provide rest breaks and meal breaks:

to the extent that the employer and employee agree that the employee is to be provided with compensatory measures; or

to the extent that, having regard to the nature of the work performed by the employee, the employer cannot reasonably provide the employee with rest breaks and meal breaks.

An employer must provide the employee with compensatory measures if the employer is not required to provide the employee with rest breaks and meal beaks under the Bill. Compensatory measures must be reasonable. The Bill includes specific clarification as to compensatory measures that involve the employee being provided with time off work (Part 1, Clause 44, substituting Sections 69ZD and 69ZE).


The reality is, that we do not live back in the 1960's and therefore the requirements of breaks etc are not the same. For example a labourer on a building site will generally need more than a 15 minute break in the morning and afternoon as well as a lunch break, but 2 half hour breaks at say 11am and 2pm might be better.
Whereas an architect operating a CAD program all day might be happier with six 10 minute breaks so he/she can get up and walk around a bit.

This law allows for the differences in workplace physical requirements. 		Krakka (17266)
1387219 2014-11-09 03:48:00 National Party supporters have some very creative ways of dealing with statistics so let’s look at the facts.

Firstly, there were 3,140,417 people eligible to vote.
Secondly, National polled 1,131,501 of those votes.
Which doesn’t give them an overwhelming majority at all.
It gives them only 36.03% of the possible vote, hardly an overwhelming mandate unless you’re a Spin Doctor because 63.96% didn’t vote for them.
There saviour was Labour imploding and self-destroying.
I think Labour, as we knew it, have consigned themselves to the history books, because there are still factions fighting over party policy with no sign of agreement.

Interesting, BM, because on the same "methodology":

Labour polled 604,535 of those 3,140,417 of eligible votes
It gave them only 19% of the possible vote.

Whichever way one looks at it, it was still a disastrous day for Labour. No matter if it was caused by their imploding, the apparent reluctance of the left wingers to brave the weather on the day, or the apalling performances of the Labour front liners, it was arguably their death knell sounding. Labour has lost its relevance in today's world, even the UK Labourites are experiencing the same disillusionment. All that's left of a once powerful force are a sad collection of trades union officials feathering their own nests and doing anything but look after the interests of their members. 		WalOne (4202)
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