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Thread ID: 66969 2006-03-13 01:02:00 I am not a thief - ebooks and DRM kingdragonfly (309) Press F1
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437739 2006-03-13 01:02:00 Careful about the eBook version of some computer "ebooks" from Amazon, such as those published by Que/Sams. It requires Adobe Reader to read.

I downloaded one at home, and activated it without realizing the implications. When I took it to work via USB drive, it complained it was already activated. My workplace proxy firewall won't let me re-activate it.

If DRM can't work transparently and reasonably, then the manufacturers should stop using it.

I'm getting really annoyed with digital rights management. I'm not trying to steal a copy of this book; I just want to use one copy on different PC's as different times. One copy, one PC at a time!

Amazon should make it clearer when a book or CD has DRM, and what is the implications of purchasing a product using it.

You'd think the Sony CD debacle would have made the point.
kingdragonfly (309)
437740 2006-03-13 02:30:00 If DRM can't work transparently and reasonably, then the manufacturers should stop using it.

Sorry mate, different pc, new licence (of course I don't really know). The joys of DRM. Wait till Vista ships :yuck:
dolby digital (5073)
437741 2006-03-13 19:43:00 When I say activate, it's not like a dialog popped up saying "do you wish to activate?". I opened it the first time, and without asking "activated."

I'm still not sure what it did, or what information was transmitted over the Internet.

Amazon's website mentioned some eBooks don't print, but nothing obvious regarding activation and it's limits.

If some kind of EULA had popped up with an "accept" / "decline" buttons, I'd probably not be so mad.
kingdragonfly (309)
437742 2006-03-14 05:07:00 Looks as if you need to keep a backup copy of what you download, and use a copy of that to read the book.

Did it actually modify the PDF file the first time it was read? I'm a bit surprised that Acrobat Reader can do that.
Graham L (2)
437743 2006-03-14 06:40:00 Try C&P in to an Open Office Writer document, then convert/save as a PDF. The one snag with this, it may not let you copy to the clipboard. Murray P (44)
437744 2006-03-14 22:08:00 Did it actually modify the PDF file the first time it was read? I'm a bit surprised that Acrobat Reader can do that.
I'm not an expert at Digital Rights Management (thank the maker).

It did apparently modify the eBook. When I complained to Amazon that limits were not obvious BEFORE the purchase, they told me I could download it four times.

Not sure what would happen after activating four times, but it's d**n annoying.

Surely they'd have learned after the Sony CD debacle to make it clearer about software modifications / limits of materials with copy protected material.
kingdragonfly (309)
437745 2006-03-14 22:22:00 What about using alternative PDF programs?
Say Foxit PDF reader (www.foxitsoftware.com)

They also do a PDF editor so try that.

Also what about putting it onto a USB Memory Dongle and then locking the dongle?
bob_doe_nz (92)
437746 2006-03-14 23:09:00 Also what about putting it onto a USB Memory Dongle and then locking the dongle?What's a "dongle"? Greg (193)
437747 2006-03-14 23:13:00 What's a "dongle"?
/me slaps Greg with a large trout.

USB memory stick you taffer! :p
bob_doe_nz (92)
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