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| Thread ID: 67082 | 2006-03-16 08:22:00 | The new orcon Broadband Plans.What do u guys think? | Ninjabear (2948) | Press F1 |
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| 438600 | 2006-04-06 01:09:00 | Another thing I don't understand is this churn fee when the service providers are allowing new customers to get enabled for free. What I've figured is, if you're currently on broadband and you switch to another provider who is offering the free connection but will not levy the churn fee is outrageous. This offer only applies to new connections. So, I was thinking, there's no cost to get disconnected from ADSL, and sometimes there is no costs to cancel you account, unless you're bound by a contract (so this may not apply to you), I know I am not and can disconnect and cancel my account no charge. So if I were to do this, and then request a new connection from another ISP, I would avoid all the overheads again. Am I missing something? You think people won't go to these extremes to save them the costs? Cheers, KK |
Kame (312) | ||
| 438601 | 2006-04-06 02:16:00 | And the new ihug plans are disapointing too | Ninjabear (2948) | ||
| 438602 | 2006-04-06 05:06:00 | Things have changed with xnet sign up charges. On the previous page someone was concerned with paying $100 Free provisioning until 21st of May 2006 (normally $99 for new connections) and does not include house wiring or a modem. A churn fee of $41 is applicable when joining from another provider. Connection and Wiring costs $149 (normally $248) and a technician will visit your house. This is normally only necessary if you have a monitored house alarm or 5 or more active phone jacks. |
apparition (3207) | ||
| 438603 | 2006-04-06 06:43:00 | I was with Orcon and went to upgrade to Broadband. They goofed me up so badly that I changed my ISP J |
jboy (9468) | ||
| 438604 | 2006-04-08 02:14:00 | Bear in mind that our overage charges are still 10 times cheaper than Xtra, and every one of our plans either provides more data or is cheaper than Xtra's plans. Cheers Seeby CEO Orcon Internet Oh really. I pay $59.95 for 10Gb data and 3.5Mbps from Xtra. You offer: Surfer Medium 3.5Mbps/128Kbps 10 $49.95 Join Now $59.95 Whats different? And how is that 10 times cheaper? What drivel. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 438605 | 2006-04-08 03:04:00 | By the way, did any of the ISPs listen to their customers? I have conducted a few talks with people on different ISPs who said they did not like the new Xtra plans and are sticking with what they got (they're with Xtra), after explaining that they can't they were shocked. What communication barrier is getting in the way if none of the customers really know what's going on? My workload is heavy because now my clients are relying on me to prepare them something so that they can make a judgement for themselves. Everyone trying to pull wool over each others eyes. In my findings so far, I think it's better off if everyone loses their internet for good (maybe have an internet strike?), this is the most ridiculous I have seen. Orcon are correct in some respect that they are 10 times cheaper than Xtra with Overage charges but then again, Xtra doesn't offer Overage charges for some of their plans in which you are throttled to Dial up speeds, in which case it won't cost you a penny more (I think this is better than being charges more but I will let the customers decide). Xtra charge 2 cents per MB over their limit (first plan only). Orcon charge $10 per 5GB over their limit (all plans), but I still need to know how it's charged with what I asked above, e.g. if you do 1GB over are you going to charge $2 or are you going to charge $10, otherwise why hide this. Another thing I'm struggling with is relevant information to toll calls, which is why I'm thinking I won't bother with it, because there just isn't enough clear information about what charges can be expected for national/mobile calls (especially from Telecom/Xtra worse site ever). It would been better if this was not a case for the ISP to do such a thing, and there's ISPs who don't though they are not reflecting it in their pricing. I have also found some ISPs offering peak/off-peak traffic, stupid in my case, and I've chosen to ignore them too, which means IHug is no longer in my comparison chart as well as a few others who chose to do the same thing. I'm hoping to have my comparison chart ready for people to make a decision before it's too late. I will be ignoring those that require having a Telstraclear Homeline (their prices aren't that great either anyways). So clear and paradise are out of the runnings. Also what is important to people in how they handle the overage charges? per MB, per GB or dialup speeds. There's also the churn fee, which makes no sense when offering new connections for free, this is outright conning the consumer, especially if disconnecting costs nothing and reconnection costs nothing. You should realise that the difference is about $10 if you do choose their Toll call options but I can't put together anything that can compare whether it's beneficial for the consumer or not. Cheers, KK |
Kame (312) | ||
| 438606 | 2006-04-08 04:45:00 | Orcon are correct in some respect that they are 10 times cheaper than Xtra with Overage charges Xtra charge 2 cents per MB over their limit (first plan only). Orcon charge $10 per 5GB over their limit (all plans), Oh is that how they get to make that outrageous claim. Well I don't have any charge - just the throttle after going over so as far as I am concerned if Orcon persists in this misleading claim they can stick it where the sun doesn't shine. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 438607 | 2006-04-08 06:37:00 | I just want to list some of my findings, what is unclear is whether ISPs are offering tolls or not, when looking at their plans, some ISP do not show that the price is reflective of tolls and those who were clear I adjusted the prices to make sure that it's toll exclusive but I can't guarantee that all of the results are correct and you must validate the information yourself. [ISP] [Down/Up] @ [Price*] & [Excess**] *I've done my best to make sure it reflects not using them as a Toll provider but you'll have to verify this and prices should include GST but again you must verify that too. ** Some ISPs allow you to buy more traffic, but I choose throttled speeds mainly (64Kbps) you'll need to check this out if you would like to buy traffic instead. So for 1GB data caps we have: iGRIN 2Mbps/128Kbps @ $39.95 & 2c/MB MaxNet 256Kbps/128Kbps @ $29.95 & $10/5GB MaxNet 2Mbps/128Kbps @ $39.95 & $10/5GB PCNet 256Kbps/128Kbps @ $39.95 & Unknown PCNet 1Mbps/128Kbps @ $44.95 & Unknown PlaNet 2Mbps/128Kbps @ $40.00 & $2.50/GB QuickSilver 2Mbps/128Kbps @ $39.95 & 64Kbps Quik 256Kbps/128Kbps @ $44.95 & 1c/MB PackingShed 2Mbps/128Kbps @ $42.00 & 64Kbps WiseNet 256Kbps/128Kbsp @ $39.95 & $10/10GB WiseNet 2Mbps/128Kbps @ $49.95 & $10/10GB WiseNet (business con) 256Kbps/128Kbps @ $49.95 & $10/10GB Xtra 2Mbps/128Kbps @ $39.95 & 64Kbps Xnet 256Kbps/128Kbps @ $29.95 & 64Kbps This list might be hard to take in, but MaxNet & Xnet (World-Xchange) seem to be the better option for 256Kbps and 1GB Data Cap, with MaxNet offering $10/5GB going over, while Xnet can let you choose how to handle your overages. Just to note: Remember this is only based on the 1GB data cap group it's possible some ISPs are offering more at the same price. For the faster speeds at 2Mbps, you'll be looking at something around $39.95 which most ISPs listing 1GB data caps seem to be doing. You'll see the ones that aren't around that price in the above list. Well, that's just the start of this. I've finished the list, just don't want to add too much to one thread yet. I also want to note all the ISPs who offer free national traffic, which could also turn tables. Cheers, KK |
Kame (312) | ||
| 438608 | 2006-04-08 06:52:00 | b/c means business con, who knows maybe they get better service but as far as I know it's suppose to be all the same for businesses too. 2GB Data Cap Orcon 2GB 256Kbps/128Kbps 39.95 $10/5GB World-net 2GB 256Kbps/128Kbps 39.95 $10/10GB World-net 2GB 2Mbps/128Kbps 45.95 $10/10GB World-net 2GB 3.5Mbps/128Kbps 49.95 $10/10GB World-net 2GB 3.5Mbps/512Kbps 84.95 $10/10GB Xnet 2GB 2Mbps/128Kbps 37.95 64Kbps That's the list for the 2GB Data caps. World-net seems to be the better one due to excess charges at 256Kbps but you can get 2Mbps cheaper with Xnet with choice of overages. I know it's comparing Apples to Oranges unless overage charges for Xnet were clear, so if you wanted to it's $10/5GB for Xnet but World-net seems to be the best for overage charges. Cheers, KK |
Kame (312) | ||
| 438609 | 2006-04-08 06:58:00 | I'm skipping ahead to unlimited because this is quite interesting and has some promising results for many here: Orcon Unlimited 256Kbps/128Kbps 109.95 N/A Quik Unlimited 256Kbps/128Kbps 59.95 N/A Quik(b/c) Unlimited 256Kbps/128Kbps 112.44 N/A Wave Unlimited 256Kbps/128Kbps 99.95 N/A Webworld Unlimited 256Kbps/128Kbps 69.95 N/A WiseNet Unlimited 256Kbps/128Kbps 99.95 N/A Unlimited is only offered at 256Kbps/128Kbps so makes comparisons easy, and although Quik has a (b/c) it's due to static IP, though definitely not worth $50+ for it, they also have the cheapest option, which would see a lot of Orcon users going to them. So I think this answers many users here but how is their service? Cheers, KK |
Kame (312) | ||
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