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Thread ID: 67433	2006-03-27 12:59:00	Broadband petition	eef2 (1904)	Press F1

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441285	2006-03-29 04:52:00	As it is Telecom has sole rights to that bit of copper that we all paid for by paying our taxes. Therefore that bit of copper should belong to us and if we want another ISP to use it then we should be allowed to. No, Telecom now owns the infrastructure because WE (The government on our behalf) sold our telecommunications infrastructure to a private company. When you sell something YOU NO LONGER OWN IT. How would you like it if the previous owners of your house (who also built the house), came back to you tens years later, they demanded that they lease out one of your bedrooms, because they they believe that they have the rights to do so becuase they originally paid for and built the house. This is despite the selling the house to you. It is exactly the same thing. There is the kiwi share agreement, however that is not applicable to DSL, and only applies to phone calls.	rogerp (6864)
441286	2006-03-29 06:56:00	How would you like it if the previous owners of your house (who also built the house), came back to you tens years later, they demanded that they lease out one of your bedrooms, because they they believe that they have the rights to do so becuase they originally paid for and built the house. T And everyone else in the neighbourhood insists they can use the kitchen.	pctek (84)
441287	2006-03-29 09:29:00	No, Telecom now owns the infrastructure because WE (The government on our behalf) sold our telecommunications infrastructure to a private company. When you sell something YOU NO LONGER OWN IT. How would you like it if the previous owners of your house (who also built the house), came back to you tens years later, they demanded that they lease out one of your bedrooms, because they they believe that they have the rights to do so becuase they originally paid for and built the house. This is despite the selling the house to you. It is exactly the same thing. There is the kiwi share agreement, however that is not applicable to DSL, and only applies to phone calls. I believe that is happening right now but lets not go there. The Goverment can regulate and get the copper back at allow acess to that copper for a fair price but Telecom know that if that happens competion might be too hot for them to handle and try at every turn to stop it. Are you sure you don't work for Telecom?	Big John (551)
441288	2006-03-29 10:19:00	When you sell something YOU NO LONGER OWN IT . Try and tell that to This Guy ( . com/html/maori . html" target="_blank">georgesteinmetz . com) Or how about this crowd (http://aotearoa . wellington . net . nz/) Or even this lot ( . waitangi-tribunal . govt . nz/about/established . asp" target="_blank">www . waitangi-tribunal . govt . nz) Fine bunch of chaps and chapesses Im sure they all are . Anyhow, Perhaps we should call a hui, throw out a half dozen Haka's, spit on the ground and poke out our tounges, . . . whoops, forgot the stick waving, something which must be done when poking out the toungue, and with a blood curdeling roar we can demand that "Whitie GIVE US BACK OUR LAND1111" er . . . I mean give us back our local loop . . . . . . . we want it back, so give it, Now, go on, give it back, please? . . . . . . no?, Can we have a job then?, just for me and the lads, and a special department just for those who are special, like me and the cuzzies . . . . .	Metla (12)
441289	2006-03-29 11:01:00	I sure would like to know where you get that from because I don't believe a word of it. I think you will find that overseas investors own the greatest number of the shares. It depends on how you look at it. Institutional investors (local and overseas) own >90% of the shares in Telecom, but >99% of shareholders have less than 100,000 shares. These are the Ma and Pa investors, who mostly reside in NZ and Australia. Source: www.telecom.co.nz	andrew93 (249)
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