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445318 2006-04-10 08:16:00 ZA is very comprehensive and also intrusive and a bully...it is very powerful but most people don't like it for it's depth of control.....and since it is a firewall, it falls under the limit of one physical and one software...if you want to run Defender, then you cannot run ZA too...they collide......
Zone alarm is a firewall, Windows defender is an anti spyware program. They perform different tasks and should co-exist happily on a computer just as ZA does with Spybot, Adaware, etc.
pilgrim (2373)
445319 2006-04-10 15:02:00 When running ZA and Windows Defender/Windows Firewall, you will be given a choice as to which firewall . . . that's right . . . FIREWALL you want to run . . . and if you run ZA's, it will shut off Defender's attachment to the other .

You will then have to inform Defender that you will monitor a third-party firewall for yourself . . . . the firewall and the anti-stuff are closely related . . . . Microsoft is going into the security business nowadays .

Remember that Defender is part of M$'s overall new package that includes monitoring Window's built-in firewall if you've got SP-2, and according to Microsoft, if you don't use the whole package, it runs in a crippled mode that does not offer protection as Microsoft wants it to be .

I, instead of using ZA use the Windows f/w version, just salt the system with antispyware as I listed in this previous post . . . . . . and also use the physical firewall in the form of a router . I prefer to use the whole windows package . . . it auto updates well and runs pretty clean as they (Microsoft) know the whole Windows system and I feel they know how to keep it from interfering too badly in the general operation of my system . . . . . . instead of another firewall trying to find it's way around millions of line of code and calls .

Knowing that there is a lot of discontent for M$ and Windows, I don't suppose this will be accepted well . . . but I have some tech support for this opinion, and of course, there's always Leo Leport too . . . he agrees . My youngest son, who was always the bandit against M$, now has a Microsoft Tech certificate and is fully certified by them . He has seen the light, so to speak and now doesn't fight the company that feeds him . . . let alone is working with a system they wrote .

The last point is success: I have it here, I guess Leo Leport has it too, and my son tells me to not fight it . Success is the truest yardstick . (meterstick?)
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