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Thread ID: 67934 2006-04-10 22:57:00 drive failure? starrekin61 (10116) Press F1
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445600 2006-04-11 01:28:00 If your cable has "master" and "slave" marked on the connectiors, it's likley to be a CS cable . If not, it's probably not . The CS cable has one wire not connected to one drive, (there's usually a missing contact in the slave connector) and if the drives are set to "CS", the controllers find out who they are when they power up .

The master and slave designations just mean "drive1" and "drive 2" . Windows calls them "C:", "D:", by its own rules . (Historically, C: is the primary master, D: is the secondary master, E: is primary slave, F: secondary slave ) .

The fact that it won't boot with both drives in means that you have got the jumpers wrong . ;)

If you have a CS cable, set the drives to CS . If not, or if the CS selection doesn't work, set one to Master and one to Slave . Have a very good look at the label . . . some drives have needed to be told "slave present" .
Graham L (2)
445601 2006-04-11 01:40:00 hi. i know i have the cables set right and the jumpers - when it wouldn't boot with both, I just took off the second drive, and it booted just fine. will check my bios set up once again. thanks. starrekin61 (10116)
445602 2006-04-11 01:55:00 . . . Also, make sure the end of the IDE cable is going to the hdd with the OS on it, and the middle cable of the IDE cable is going to the slave hdd . That applies to CS cables . A non-CS cable has all wires going staright through, and drive selection depends on the M/S jumpers . A CS cable has one wire continuous to the master connector, and is not connected to the slave connector .

Sometimes, the BIOS AUTO setting does not detect an optical drive correctly . Try the "ATAPI CD/DVD" (or similar) option .

If the drives conflict to the point of preventing booting, there's something wrong . I know you " . . . have the cables set right and the jumpers . . . " . I'm infallible too . :D Except when i make an error . :cool:

Of course when you have only one drive on an interface, there's no problem . The system can work that out .
Graham L (2)
445603 2006-04-11 03:02:00 Success!!!
sort og...
All 3 hard drives now connected and operating properly - including the cd-rw.
Bios does not recognize third hard drive, however, Windows does and it is usable and operating.
How can that be? Guess I won't fight it, if I can at least get to it.
Think I need to replace my nero cd though - can't get it to load. that should be an easy problem compared to the rest.
Thanks for all the help here.
starrekin61 (10116)
445604 2006-04-11 03:11:00 Success!!!
sort og . . .
All 3 hard drives now connected and operating properly - including the cd-rw .
Bios does not recognize third hard drive, however, Windows does and it is usable and operating .
How can that be? Guess I won't fight it, if I can at least get to it .
Think I need to replace my nero cd though - can't get it to load . that should be an easy problem compared to the rest .
Thanks for all the help here .

The 3rd hdd maybe an old one?

You can try and enter the heads/cylinders etc for it (in the BIOS under secondary primary master/slave manually) . Whatever the 3rd hdd is on .

Go to the entry in the BIOS for the 3rd hdd, change it from AUTO to USER .

And type the heads / cylinders etc for the hdd in manually .

The info you need is on the top of the hard drive . Then the BIOS may detect it .

What do you mean the Nero CD?? Are you trying to install Nero? Or is Nero installed but it doesnt detect the cd burner?

Whats the 3rd hard drive on?? IDE secondary master, or slave?
Speedy Gonzales (78)
445605 2006-04-11 03:42:00 will try the bios setup for 3rd drive. yes, it's an older one.
i have nero for my cd-rw, it is currently on a disk(burned) - but I can't get the setup programs to work, although the computer can see it. am trying to install a new program for it now. will let u know if it works. thanks.
starrekin61 (10116)
445606 2006-04-11 04:41:00 Success...is so damned short lived!!! :badpc:
Okay, now I am definitely ready to throw this thing through a wall!!!
someone please rescue from pc hell!!

Just lost both the 3rd drive and the cd-rw on the 2nd port. did not touch any cables or jumpers, etc. they're just gone.
did try to use it as a burner, though. all went fine until I once again tried to install nero from the cd... bad move. it locked up and then, when restarted, nothing was there!

If it's not with the drives and the way that I have them connected, what could be wrong here?
I know it must be something that I am overlooking, but I am totally clueless.
Could it be the burner itself that is causing all the problems?
Or perhaps the power supply itself?
I'm running out of ideas here.
Thanks for putting up with me and my ineptitude, by the way.
starrekin61 (10116)
445607 2006-04-11 04:44:00 Errr, where r u?

NZ? Auck, CHCH, Wellington?

If you're in Mt Eden, I could help you.
Speedy Gonzales (78)
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