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445590 2006-04-10 22:57:00 Hi. Hope someone can help. i was here a few days ago, with a bad ide port problem. Anyway, got my 2nd ide port to recognize drives again, now, it's not.
I have 3 hard drives, cr-rw and no floppy drive. How should I have each one hooked up and connected?
I think that the problem may be in the way I have the jumpers, otherwise, I'm not sure.
Tried resetting bios, too, no avail.
I had all 4 working a little while ago, until I switched the order of the drives to try and access the cd-rw.
Help!!! What am I doing wrong? :help:
thanks in advance.
starrekin61 (10116)
445591 2006-04-10 23:06:00 Is that 3 IDE hard drives and an IDE cd-rw - Hard drives as master and slave on the first controller, hard drive as master and cd-rw as slave on the second. (Masters normally go on the end of the cable, slaves in the middle)

I'd do it slowly - get the bios to see the master on the first controller and then add the slave, same for the second controller. Little steps then you can work out which bit breaks it, if something does break it.

Redstripe on the cable goes to pin 1 on the controller and drives if the cable is not keyed.
gcarmich (10068)
445592 2006-04-10 23:11:00 If its a hard drive, put them on AUTO (Under Primary IDE Master and Slave. In the BIOS).

And make sure you jumper the hard drive/s as Master and Slave.

Also, make sure (if you have 2 or more hard drives), that they're not BOTH jumpered to Master, or Slave. They'll conflict.

There's a red / blue stripe on the IDE cables. The stripe goes to pin 1 on the mobo IDE connection, and to pin 1 on the hard drive / cd/dvd.

If the IDE cable has a BLUE connector, on one end, the blue end gets connected to the motherboard IDE connector.

The same applies tho. The red/blue stripe that goes along one side of the IDE cable ALWAYS goes to pin 1 on BOTH the hdd / cd / dvd, and to the motherboard IDE connector.

BUT don't put cd's or dvd's on the same IDE connector as a hard drive.

Put them on the same IDE connection. And of course, make sure power is going to all of them.
Speedy Gonzales (78)
445593 2006-04-10 23:11:00 For starters, get the system running on minimum - one harddisk with the OS(Operating system) on it. This harddisk should have it's jumpers( usually beside the ribbon cable, unless the drive is really old ) set to Master.
Once that is happening add the CDRW to the second IDE cable, set the jumpers on CableSelect(CS). Start up with that.
Then add next drive to Primary IDE cable, with jumpers set to SLAVE or CS. Beware! Some IDE cables, particularly on UDMA66 types (very fine wires), are sensitive about where the slave and Master go- Slave in Middle, master at end.
When that goes do the same for the last harddisk, on Secondary Ide cable, being sure to set that harddisk to Master(note the beware above, don't twist cables too badly).
Hope that helps :thumbs:
combatwombat_nz (8816)
445594 2006-04-10 23:21:00 Most IDE device wont work at all, on cable select.

And CS, I think needs a specific kind of cable.
Speedy Gonzales (78)
445595 2006-04-11 00:05:00 Thanks for the info.
Right now, on IDE 1, I have the cd-rw as master, the 1st hard drive, with the operating system.
Will try your suggestions.
starrekin61 (10116)
445596 2006-04-11 00:20:00 Put 2 hard drives on the Primary IDE as Master and Slave .

(The one with the OS on it (as Master), and another hard drive) .

You'll have to put the burner and the other hard drive, on the secondary IDE channel .

If you have probs with the burner, there's not much else you can do about it .

You may have to remove the 3rd hdd altogether, to fix it . And leave the burner by itself on the secondary IDE connection .
Speedy Gonzales (78)
445597 2006-04-11 00:45:00 Thanks, speedy. will try that right now. will let you know how it goes. :) starrekin61 (10116)
445598 2006-04-11 01:08:00 I'm back. Good news - drive is okay.
Bad news:
Put both hard drives on 1st IDE port. Cables and jumpers have been set correctly. System read both drives - but made the master with OS on it, the D: drive and made the slave the C: drive. :eek:
What could be the problem?
Windows wouldn't boot with both connected. Have only master hooked up now.
Will try to search for some answers here.
starrekin61 (10116)
445599 2006-04-11 01:21:00 The master hdd, make sure u make it the bootable drive (in the BIOS) as well.

And make sure you've put the primary ide master and slave hard drives on AUTO in the BIOS. So, the BIOS recognises / detects both of them.

Then save the BIOS settings. Then see if both work.

Also, make sure the end of the IDE cable is going to the hdd with the OS on it, and the middle cable of the IDE cable is going to the slave hdd.
Speedy Gonzales (78)
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