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Thread ID: 67913	2006-04-10 04:39:00	DIY ADSL wiring-NewB :waughh:	cajetan (8513)	Press F1

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445386	2006-04-10 04:39:00	Getting ADSL through Xnet but need to buy modem and do the line splitting thing myself-can someone just read through to make sure i have this covered? GETTING- 1XBillion 7100 4 port ADSL Router-to hook up 2 PC's 2XSplitters for 2 phone jacks @ home. Upstairs i have a phone jack in the master bedroom but I have the PC's in another room. At the moment I am running a long extension phone line from the phone jack into the other room. QUESTION-can i just plug the splitter/filter into the phone lines extension or do i need to plug the splitter/filter into the ACTUAL phonejack in the wall? :confused: Thks All	cajetan (8513)
445387	2006-04-10 04:52:00	Depends where you will be plugging phones in. If it's the type of unit with 1 socket for the modem and one for the phone, put it where the phone is. The extension cord most likely won't have twisted wire pairs so won't be as good as fixed wiring for ADSL. Whether this matters will depend on your plan speed.	PaulD (232)
445388	2006-04-10 04:56:00	You could plug the filter either to the jack or to the end of the extension. It's all "telephone wiring" up to the filter. But the modem should be close to the filter. The extension is not particularly good for the ADSL signal, but it will probably work. I would be inclined to plug the filter into the jack, the modem into it, and run another cable (CAT5 or CAT6) from the modem to the computers. ;)	Graham L (2)
445389	2006-04-10 05:00:00	Thks I was thinking of using the phonejack downstairs solely for phone calls but regardless i still have to use the splitter/filter at every phone jack correct? Have to use the extension cord but is there a 20m cord out there that can plug directly into the splitter/filter gadget thing at the phonejack straight into the modem/router in the room where the PC's are?	cajetan (8513)
445390	2006-04-10 05:03:00	Filters are to block other devices that aren't ADSL. When ADSL gets enabled on your line, everything is live to ADSL which means any device that isn't ADSL has to be filtered from this. So say you have two jackpoints, you only have to filter them if they are used by other devices that aren't ADSL. Say you have a double adaptor on one of those jackpoints where the extension goes to your computer and the other one goes to your phone, you'll stick the filter at the point the phone connects to that adapter while you can ignore the direct extension to your computer. The extension does not have to go into the ADSL part of the filter if it has one, it's basically there to double as an adaptor if you don't have a double adaptor (in which case you may want to either change the end of the extension or buy a adaptor to have a fitting that fits the port in the filter. I prefer just changing the extension end, cheaper this way if you have phone cables lying around and maybe some wire joiners (came to this decision when finding out the adapter would cost $14 when changing the ends cost $3). Say you have on the other jackpoint a double adaptor that has two devices not ADSL, then filter it at the jackpoint and connect the double adaptor to the filter. Just a side note, you don't need to filter jackpoints that have no devices running off them, or only run to ADSL. Cheers, KK	Kame (312)
445391	2006-04-10 05:22:00	you can try it as jack --> double adapter --> filter & phone on one side, extention to the computer room on the other side (doesn't need to be filtered) If you have problems with your ADSL, you might have to move the router or get propper wiring installed	Greven (91)
445392	2006-04-10 05:22:00	I was a bit obscure, unfortunately: there are two sorts of "filters" /"splitters". A filter plugs into the line, and a telephone type device (phone, fax, answering machine) plugs into it. A splitter plugs into the line and has two outputs -- one (non-filtered) for the ADSL modem; one (filtered) for telephone type devices. I said "filter" although cajetan said "splitter" but thought "splitter". If the only thing using that point is an ADSL modem, no filter is needed.	Graham L (2)
445393	2006-04-10 05:42:00	thks to all who replied so freaking quick! :D so would i be right in the below phonejack in the wall-phone line extention plug straight into modem/router should work OK BUT might cause problems if still want to use my phone upstairs phonejack in the wall-phone line extention-add filter/splitter-plug 1 line into the phone & plug 1 line into the modem should work OK AS WELL BUT might cause problems am on the 2M/128 connection with Xnet.	cajetan (8513)
445394	2006-04-10 05:51:00	If your "filter/splitter" has two outputs, yes, the modem can be plugged into one, leaving the other for a phone . If it has only one output, it's a filter and the modem doesn't want to know it . ;) It should be plugged into a double telephone adapter to feed the phone, and the modem should be plugged into the other side of the double adapter . The modem takes all the signal on the phone line . Phones need to have the high frequencies used by the ADSL filtered out . (In a splitter, the modem output is directly connected to the input) . The possible problem is that the phone extension cable is not twisted pair, and it can be a bit lossy . It might not matter . If it works it will work . ;) But if you don't get full speed, move the modem back to the jackpoint, and use a digital (CAT5) extension cable to the computer . It can run alongside the phone exxtension . ;)	Graham L (2)
445395	2006-04-10 07:29:00	You can have network and phone going through the same cat 5 cable. it is supposed to give better phone quality & not affect the network. But everything costs money & it is entirely possible that he won't have any problems using it as it is now (but with a filter on each phone)	Greven (91)
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