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Thread ID: 138540	2014-12-15 02:46:00	Vis- a-vis The current Oz crisis................	Billy T (70)	PC World Chat

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1390200	2014-12-15 02:46:00	This was written in 1899 By Sir Winston Churchill It was prescient in the extreme ...… and surprising that it hasn't been republished long before now. CHURCHILL ON ISLAM The following short speech from Winston Churchill, was delivered by him in 1899 when he was a young soldier and journalist. It probably sets out the current views of many, but expresses in the wonderful Churchillian turn of phrase and use of the English language, of which he was a past master. Sir Winston Churchill was, without doubt, one of the greatest men of the late 19th and 20th centuries. He was a brave young soldier, a brilliant journalist, an extraordinary politician and statesman, a great war leader and British Prime Minister, to whom the Western world must be forever in debt. He was a prophet in his own time. He died on 24th January 1965, at the grand old age of 90 and, after a lifetime of service to his country, was accorded a State funeral. Here is the speech, which would have been delivered in his slow, deliberate, growl.......... "How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome ." Sir Winston Churchill; 1875 to 1965 Source: The River War, first edition, Vol II, pages 248-250 London (Check Wikipedia) One hundred and fifteen years later, it remains militant and proselytizing. Personally speaking, and referring to militant muslims only, I wouldn't call it a faith. Billy	Billy T (70)
1390201	2014-12-15 03:00:00	Same thing happened with the Christian "Crusades" back in the 1100s. Religion by force isn't a religion. As mentioned, it unfortunately reflects badly on the many good and decent "normal" people there :(	Chilling_Silence (9)
1390202	2014-12-15 04:04:00	were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fallh.[/I] Mmm...but the wanted to eliminate the Ottoman empire for ages.... Christianity? Science? Hah. Saying one mad religion is better than another....ban them all I say.	pctek (84)
1390203	2014-12-15 07:46:00	Mmm...but the wanted to eliminate the Ottoman empire for ages.... Christianity? Science? Hah. Saying one mad religion is better than another....ban them all I say. Ban them, except for the ones willing to accept transportation to the planet of their choice, naturally at their own expense.	R2x1 (4628)
1390204	2014-12-15 08:27:00	The News media is at it again!! Australia under siege, in reality a gunman in a coffee shop! Why does the Australian & New Zealand media always have to exaggerate a situation?	mzee (3324)
1390205	2014-12-15 11:15:00	Stuff news are particularly bad at that, never let the news get in the way of a good story :-/	Chilling_Silence (9)
1390206	2014-12-15 16:10:00	Up before 5.00am just after the cafe was stormed,seems like a good result in the end Excellent coverage on al jazeera after flicking through of the buy this buy that channels	Lawrence (2987)
1390207	2014-12-15 16:31:00	Does seem now there has been one fatality,not so good	Lawrence (2987)
1390208	2014-12-15 19:21:00	3 dead - 4 injured . Doesn't sound so good now, does it? Who botched-it? :(	Zippity (58)
1390209	2014-12-15 19:53:00	I really got pissed of with the giant CH 7 logo running right across the TV news pictures last nite. I this type of crap was restricted to middle east and African news networks..	paulw (1826)
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