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Thread ID: 138506	2014-12-10 20:05:00	This is New Zealand!	bk T (215)	PC World Chat

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1389908	2014-12-11 08:52:00	Wonder what she paid for parking while she spent all that time waiting at the Mission? The trip does seem to be a very frivolous decision based solely on getting another handout. Wonder if she has sky TV. Seems that most state homes are lined with sat dishes - it's a more common feature than an intact fence or a mown lawn. As for Xmas being an expensive time of year... well, do as I do, and treat it like just any other week - no special journeys, no special feeds, no special drinks, no presents or treats, just another day living responsibly within a budget.	Paul.Cov (425)
1389909	2014-12-11 08:53:00	Oak baked beans are a motley serving of slop. NZ baked beans are mostly pretty bland, but Oak water their effort down a bit. This probably improves it.	R2x1 (4628)
1389910	2014-12-11 13:49:00	You haven't. Actually, I have, 2 years in fact. Family of 7 survived off the benefit while my father re-studied. Remind me where you were that whole time? That's right, you weren't there.... Get ****ed.	Chilling_Silence (9)
1389911	2014-12-11 18:11:00	Actually, I have, 2 years in fact. Family of 7 survived off the benefit while my father re-studied. Get ****ed. That's your dad not you. So he managed for 2 years. And what does that say? Like MOST people on benefits and low incomes, they are not sitting around on their bums having a good time. I don't deny there are some no-hopers who don't try but it's the persistent lumping them all into that category without knowing the situation that annoys me.	pctek (84)
1389912	2014-12-11 18:16:00	Wonder if she has sky TV. Seems that most state homes are lined with sat dishes - it's a more common feature than an intact fence or a mown lawn. Exactly, that’s why giving some people Cash is counter-productive, they need supervision one way or another. I tried to help a family a couple of years ago and next thing the woman was running around with "Personalised Plates" on her car. :eek: A Christmas gift to herself was the explanation. :groan:	B.M. (505)
1389913	2014-12-11 22:17:00	New Zealand residents are very lucky. When I was a youngster I was unemployed for a while. I was fresh out of compulsory Military service. No job, no money, no such thing as welfare. Lived on discarded fruit for a while. I vowed at the time that I would never be unemployed again. I became self employed most of the time, and only had a job when it was both interesting and lucrative. When I came to New Zealand in 1967 I got a job in a Diesel room at Joseph Lucas in Hamilton. Got the sack because I refused to join a Union. Have only had one job since, the rest of the time I have been self employed, never been on the dole, owned a house. My three sons have their own houses (with the Bank). Stop sponging use your brain and do some work! You must budget and get your priorities right.	mzee (3324)
1389914	2014-12-11 22:51:00	That's your dad not you. So he managed for 2 years. I don't deny there are some no-hopers who don't try but it's the persistent lumping them all into that category without knowing the situation that annoys me. Given that I did the budgeting for the family, yes, I'd say so actually. There's a reason they're lumped in so often, because there's no good reason for a solo mother with one child to be paying so much for rent. It's 100% dumb and completely foolish by the person living in that situation. They have nobody to blame but themselves.	Chilling_Silence (9)
1389915	2014-12-12 00:42:00	... there's no good reason for a solo mother with one child to be paying so much for rent. Yes there is. She might have a poor mental capacity for making decisions. You say Tough - let her suffer. I prefer the Christian approach. We should treat her as if she were a member of our family - to help her in whatever way we can Most of us make poor decisions at times but we recover. The problems arise when a poor person does it. They lack the resources to recover and spiral downwards. It's also what happens when a poor person suffers a misfortune like having their car stolen (as PCtech has pointed out) I find it sad that some members of this site expect everybody else in the world to be as clever as they are...	BBCmicro (15761)
1389916	2014-12-12 01:12:00	Yes there is. She might have a poor mental capacity for making decisions. You say Tough - let her suffer. I prefer the Christian approach. We should treat her as if she were a member of our family - to help her in whatever way we can Most of us make poor decisions at times but we recover. The problems arise when a poor person does it. They lack the resources to recover and spiral downwards. It's also what happens when a poor person suffers a misfortune like having their car stolen (as PCtech has pointed out) I find it sad that some members of this site expect everybody else in the world to be as clever as they are... Well said!	ruup (1827)
1389917	2014-12-12 01:15:00	Eleanor Anaru receives a sole-parent benefit of $299.45 plus family tax credit of $92.73 and an accommodation supplement that lifts her income to about $500 a week. She pays $400 for rent, leaving just $100. And then her accommodation supplement is removed because she has gone boarding. For $400 she gets $109 accommodation. It's very easy for those who haven't had to live it to pass judgement. They have no idea what budgets are and how something - a dead fridge, car repair, anything can stuff it for months. One assume you would advocate we she be forced to help these people?	Cicero (40)
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