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Thread ID: 138540	2014-12-15 02:46:00	Vis- a-vis The current Oz crisis................	Billy T (70)	PC World Chat

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1390210	2014-12-15 21:04:00	3 dead - 4 injured. Doesn't sound so good now, does it? Who botched-it? :( The hostages are blaming the Prime Minister Sounds like NZ Ken	kenj (9738)
1390211	2014-12-15 21:31:00	You gotta love the "hangers on" who jump in front of the tv cameras to express their grief, tears rolling down their cheeks, sobbing away. God, I hate their actions and 30 seconds of fame. The media who cover this crap need a boot......................	Zippity (58)
1390212	2014-12-15 22:12:00	3 dead - 4 injured. Doesn't sound so good now, does it? Who botched-it? :( It did sound like one hell of alot of gunfire, in a confined space, to take down 1 guy....injuries or worse through friendly fire ?	1101 (13337)
1390213	2014-12-15 23:01:00	It did sound like one hell of alot of gunfire, in a confined space, to take down 1 guy . . . . injuries or worse through friendly fire ? The current record for a long range sniper shot is 2,475 m (2,707 yd) shot in November 2009 during in the War in Afghanistan . The sniper shot two static machine gunners consecutively . Confirmed by GPS, it took the 8 . 59 mm rounds almost three seconds to hit their targets, which were 914 metres (1,000 yd) beyond the L115A3 sniper rifle’s recommended range . A third shot took out the insurgent’s machine gun . So, let me see now, first to mind is how far away were the police (and/or military) snipers during all of this schemozzle? Secondly, if several people could escape out rear entrances or whatever (they sure didn't get out the front door), then why didn't the police retrace the escapees exit path and get to the gunman from behind . Thirdly, there was a glass frontage that the media seemed to be able to use to advantage, so a word in the ear when the gunman's attention was distracted and an officer could have stepped out and potted him . I realise that you would have had to be there to appreciate the full picture, but I reckon the Oz team made a right pig's bum of their entire operation . Even with the limited information we get from news channels, it does seem that the authotities made a complete hash of the whole situation . :confused: Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
1390214	2014-12-15 23:39:00	Mmm...but they wanted to eliminate the Ottoman empire for ages.... Christianity? Science? Hah. Saying one mad religion is better than another....ban them all I say. Never let the facts get in the way of a good rant pct: So what is the truth about the Crusades? Scholars are still working some of that out, but much can already be said with certainty: For starters, the Crusades to the East were in every way defensive wars. They were a direct response to Muslim aggression—an attempt to turn back territorial and theistic invasion by defending against Muslim conquests of Christian lands. Once the battles were won, the Crusaders returned to their own territories. Ergo:The Crusades were not an attempt to eliminate the Ottoman Empire, their purpose was to prevent its expansion by force into Christian territories. Christians and Muslims can co-exist peacefully, it is only the radical arm of the muslim faith that creates unrest through their warped religious views. The current militant movements believe that the planet should be populated solely by adherents to their radical version of the muslim faith. Billy Relevant Statistics: Principal Religious Affiliations: Christian 33.39% (of which Roman Catholic 16.85%, Protestant 6.15%, Orthodox 3.96%, Anglican 1.26%), Muslim 22.74%, Hindu 13.8%, Buddhist 6.77%, Sikh 0.35%, Jewish 0.22%, Baha'i 0.11%, other religions 10.95%, non-religious 9.66%, atheists 2.01% (2010 est.) Encyclopedia of Gods: This mighty tome lists over 2,500 Deities available to be worshipped. The majority of people on this planet do not believe in 2,499 of them. So, whatever your belief structure you have once chance in 2,500 of being right, but you will have to wait for your 'personal expiry date' to find out, and by that time it will be too late. :illogical	Billy T (70)
1390215	2014-12-16 00:58:00	I would like the minds ability to believe anything explained, I have a feeling Bill boy can do it!	Cicero (40)
1390216	2014-12-16 01:40:00	The Crusades were not an attempt to eliminate the Ottoman Empire, The current militant movements believe that the planet should be populated solely by adherents to their radical version of the muslim faith. No, Churchill wanted to get rid of them, well so did most of the allies at the time..... Yep, there are several Muslim sects who are psycho. There are some Christian ones who are psycho too.....although generally they stick to killing their own members these days....	pctek (84)
1390217	2014-12-16 02:16:00	The current record for a long range sniper shot is 2,475 m (2,707 yd) shot in November 2009 during in the War in Afghanistan. The sniper shot two static machine gunners consecutively. Confirmed by GPS, it took the 8.59 mm rounds almost three seconds to hit their targets, which were 914 metres (1,000 yd) beyond the L115A3 sniper rifle’s recommended range. A third shot took out the insurgent’s machine gun. So, let me see now, first to mind is how far away were the police (and/or military) snipers during all of this schemozzle? Secondly, if several people could escape out rear entrances or whatever (they sure didn't get out the front door), then why didn't the police retrace the escapees exit path and get to the gunman from behind. Thirdly, there was a glass frontage that the media seemed to be able to use to advantage, so a word in the ear when the gunman's attention was distracted and an officer could have stepped out and potted him. I realise that you would have had to be there to appreciate the full picture, but I reckon the Oz team made a right pig's bum of their entire operation. Even with the limited information we get from news channels, it does seem that the authotities made a complete hash of the whole situation. :confused: Cheers Billy 8-{) To respond to your "thirdly" point - I understand that the building used to be a bank, and that the police were concerned that the glass in the windows was stronger than 'normal' glass (but they didn't know for sure) and wouldn't risk a shot as the unknown strength of the glass might deflect a well-aimed kill shot...	johcar (6283)
1390218	2014-12-16 02:24:00	Relevant Statistics: Principal Religious Affiliations: Christian 33.39% (of which Roman Catholic 16.85%, Protestant 6.15%, Orthodox 3.96%, Anglican 1.26%), Muslim 22.74%, Hindu 13.8%, Buddhist 6.77%, Sikh 0.35%, Jewish 0.22%, Baha'i 0.11%, other religions 10.95%, non-religious 9.66%, atheists 2.01% (2010 est.) Is that supposed to be the world population? 2% seems crazy low for Atheism to me. 98% of the worlds population in 2010 had religious beliefs? Seems to me like those numbers might be more than a bit skewed. Do they count anyone living in a western country and celebrating Xmas as christian? Because that's me and I'm not religious. The truth about the crusades? - 2 religious factions fought with each other both believing they were the true believers saving the world from the evil wrongdoers. To me they were all nutjobs. As with all history more is lost than remains and we can not know the details of anything with certainty but Billy probably is closer to the truth than most. It's unlikely it was for just one simple reason though, they may have been defending their territory but that's not to say they didn't also want to wipe out the ottoman empire. Who really knows.	dugimodo (138)
1390219	2014-12-16 02:25:00	There are some Christian ones who are psycho too.....although generally they stick to killing their own members these days.... Which is sad, but kinda funny, Darwinism at it's finest :D	Chilling_Silence (9)
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