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Thread ID: 138531	2014-12-13 20:57:00	Samsung S5 - anti-theft?	bk T (215)	PC World Chat

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1390141	2014-12-15 01:11:00	... I would NOT expect someone to break into my car in a supermarket car park in the off chance that they might find some unexpected goodies hiding in the boot of my car. I think this is a valid and realistic view.	bk T (215)
1390142	2014-12-15 03:11:00	I would NOT expect someone to break into my car in a supermarket car park in the off chance that they might find some unexpected goodies hiding in the boot of my car . So why would you go to the trouble of trying to hide it if you were not anticipating the possibility of theft? I wouldn't mind betting thet the thief was already aware that you had it, and may even have followed you to the supermarket . The only point I disagree with is that possession of the receipt is proof of ownership for the thief, unless of course, you paid cash! I've had cars broken into on five occasions over the years, all when parked . In none of the instances was there anything of value in the vehicle other than parking meter money . On one occasion the stereo was taken while parked on a busy main road and under a street light, so go figure! I think this is a valid and realistic view . Your view is both invalid and unrealistic . Where else would you expect it to be broken into??? :rolleyes: They do it on the off-chance there WILL be some unexpected goodies for heaven's sake! A thief can get in as quickly as you can when using your keys, so he or she would arouse no concern . Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
1390143	2014-12-15 03:53:00	Your view is both invalid and unrealistic. Where else would you expect it to be broken into??? :rolleyes: They do it on the off-chance there WILL be some unexpected goodies for heaven's sake! A thief can get in as quickly as you can when using your keys, so he or she would arouse no concern. Cheers Billy 8-{) Agree with Billy Also consider the time of year, people expect to find loot in cars.	DeSade (984)
1390144	2014-12-15 04:01:00	If you have to do you shopping at 3 different places and they are not too far away from each other but quite far away from you home, don't tell me that you will make 3 individual trips, bringing back you purchases home every time. Even you brought everything back to your home each time, do you think that it's 100% safe at you very own home? LOL	bk T (215)
1390145	2014-12-15 07:52:00	He can take solace from the old saw that it's better to give than receive, although the receiver may not think so.	R2x1 (4628)
1390146	2014-12-15 20:53:00	If you have to do you shopping at 3 different places and they are not too far away from each other but quite far away from you home, don't tell me that you will make 3 individual trips, bringing back you purchases home every time. Even you brought everything back to your home each time, do you think that it's 100% safe at you very own home? LOL No, but are you saying that something as small as a new phone is too big to carry around with you. If thieves break into a car, why would we think they wont look in the boot, its only a pull on a lever to open it when in the car. Perhaps youre thinking like a honest man, not thinking like a a crook :)	1101 (13337)
1390147	2014-12-15 21:41:00	1101， I do understand what you are trying to say. :) About 3 weeks ago, I witnessed a young fellow (I wouldn't like to mention his race/ethnic origin) who snatched a handbag from a middle-age women, punched and pushed down the older woman to the ground who was walking to their car at the carpark (probably her mother /mother-in-law) in east-Auckland. The young fellow then jumped in to a car waited nearby. Do you still think that it is 'safe' to carry it with you? You may even ended up in the hospital bed! What I am trying to say here is, it is still NOT safe to carry whatever is 'valuable' with you, especially in Auckland area; of course, if you are a black-belt karate or kungfu master then it's a totally different story. LOL Security in Auckland is getting from bad to worse, sadly.	bk T (215)
1390148	2014-12-15 22:49:00	So why would you go to the trouble of trying to hide it if you were not anticipating the possibility of theft? I wouldn't mind betting thet the thief was already aware that you had it, and may even have followed you to the supermarket. The only point I As I mentioned previously, if you leaving a recently purchased small box/laptop etc on the back seat of your car in plain view while you go shopping near by then Yes, the possibility of having an opportunistic smash and grab in the parking lot is entirely feasible and does happen. But when you place that item out of view in the rear boot of your car ( which is sensible) so that any passerby would have no obvious reason to commit an opportunistic smash and grab, I would say that you would expect your recent purchases "should" be pretty safe while you are in the shops. I think that some offenders are just getting more brazen about what they attempt to do as they have no fear of the law of the potential consequences of their actions if or when they are collared by the long arm of the law.	Webdevguy (17166)
1390149	2014-12-16 00:55:00	1101， I do understand what you are trying to say . :) About 3 weeks ago, I witnessed a young fellow (I wouldn't like to mention his race/ethnic origin) who snatched a handbag from a middle-age women, punched and pushed down the older woman to the ground who was walking to their car at the carpark (probably her mother /mother-in-law) in east-Auckland . The young fellow then jumped in to a car waited nearby . Do you still think that it is 'safe' to carry it with you? You may even ended up in the hospital bed! What I am trying to say here is, it is still NOT safe to carry whatever is 'valuable' with you, especially in Auckland area; of course, if you are a black-belt karate or kungfu master then it's a totally different story . LOL Security in Auckland is getting from bad to worse, sadly . I'm pretty sure I speak for nearly every user on this site when I say, my $600 phone is in my pocket 24/7 . It's just unfortunate the lady in your story was targeted . In regards to your initial friend - Agree with what has been said in here - silly to leave such things in an unattended car *anywhere* . You can cary shopping bags with you - generally the rest of the people in the same carpark/mall/supermarket will be doing the same thing . Also in regards to the 3 individual trips - Sure! I did it when I purchased my TV . Took it straight home and then went back out to go the movie in the same mall . I don't know about the 'ownership' thing though . Because the receipt should have EFTPOS details etc, but then again cash could be a different story . Police would see the item, proof of purchase and tell the sod to be on their way . They'd probably do that with the EFTPOS receipt too actually - they don't usually ask to see the card used . . . Unlucky for your mate and best of luck to them if they can get proof of purchase and get insurance cover . :2cents:	lordnoddy (3645)
1390150	2014-12-16 08:02:00	Unlucky for your mate and best of luck to them if they can get proof of purchase and get insurance cover. :2cents: If the other 10% of the mate's brain was still working, he would have gone back to the shop he bought it from while his features etc were still familiar, and there ask the friendly shop assistant who served him for a copy of the sales docket plus any other relevant details, including any assigned phone number number, plus any other valid proof of purchase, then he could shoot around the corner to his local cop-shop to report the theft. This is assuming that he was not heavily disguised when he bought it, and paid with a pile of used notes. Then, and only then, might his Insurance Company representative maybe consider thinking about making a possible exception and could potentiallu even go so far as to decide to refer the matter to his (or her) Superior, before changing his mind and telling him to get lost, because leaving the whole kit and caboodle in the boot of his car in a public carpark was almost certainly contrary to item 97.6.3 in the list of 473 actions of wilful negligence that will result in cover for his loss being declined. Cheers Billy 8-:)	Billy T (70)
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