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| 451178 | 2006-05-01 22:17:00 | Hi Guys, Have been getting a couple of spam emails per day . Obviously I never reply to them but isn't the fact that they don't bounce still confirm to the spammer that they hit a live target ? is there a way i can bounce them so that appears my addy is not a live one ? cheers Pete |
Organicpete (133) | ||
| 451179 | 2006-05-01 22:25:00 | Doesn't Mailwasher let u bounce emails? I dont know. Never used it. I just use Poptray, and blacklist the domain/isp the spam comes from. |
Speedy Gonzales (78) | ||
| 451180 | 2006-05-01 22:28:00 | Try one of these. http://www.bouncebully.com/ http://www.mailwasher.net/ hth |
johnboy (217) | ||
| 451181 | 2006-05-01 22:43:00 | From the forum's FAQ #20 - How do I get rid of SPAM? (www.pressf1.co.nz) 4. A note about bouncing spam One option available in MailWasher is the ability to set it to bounce back unwanted spam so that your address looks like it doesn't exist to the sender. In theory they will soon remove you from their list. The following was submitted by Graham Lees: Again, this suggestion of bouncing spam. The senders of spam don't get these bounces. Innocent third-parties get them. The spam senders give a false 'From:' address. ISP postmasters waste huge amounts of time handling such bounces, mostly from such 'automatic' filters setup in revenge mode. This just wastes bandwidth (slows networks down for everyone), wastes people time (wouldn't you like people at your ISP making it better), and has NO effect on the culprits. ANYTHING WHICH AUTOMATICALLY SENDS EMAIL 'COMPLAINTS' ABOUT SPAM IS *PRODUCING* SPAM. IF you have not got enough time (or the skills) to track and identify the actual source of this stuff, just dump it. Don't set up filter software to 'get revenge'. That does not work. Just use it to filter the input and send the rejects to the bit bucket. The following was submitted by whiskeytangofoxtrot: If a spammer sends to a non existent address it will bounce back with an unknown user from the destination mail server. The bounce feature in Mailwasher tries to emulate this by sending back basically a forged unknown user bounce to the sender of the spam. If you know what you are doing it is very easy to determine what is a mailwasher bounce versus an actual mail server bounce. That said, if an e-mail sent by a spammer is not bounced back then theoretically the spammer could use that as a way of validating an active address by assumng if it didn't bounce then it must've gone somewhere legitimate (just like they use unsubscribe links, embedded images etc to do this). However, the addresses spammers use are rarely valid - more often than not they are made up, or worse still a valid address of some other poor unsuspecting sap. It would be a rarity for a spammer to monitor the return address for bounces as a method of checking the validity of their list. Hence bouncing is really a waste of time, all it does is increase the amount of dead mail being sent around, and usually results in a flood of messages coming back to the bouncer. It costs nothing to send out a few million e-mails, if 80 - 90% of them don't hit a target no one cares. A spammer only needs to get a rate of return of less than 1% to break even. Conclusion: Don't bother. :rolleyes: |
FoxyMX (5) | ||
| 451182 | 2006-05-01 22:48:00 | I always bounce spam, using Mailwasher. It's no skin off my nose whether the email networks get a bit more congestion - it's a miniscule fraction of what the spammer's doing. And if congestion get too much, well maybe ISP's will start thinking a bit more seriously about dealing with the problem. | Greg (193) | ||
| 451183 | 2006-05-01 22:59:00 | Hi Organic* I reckon that if you just set your Mailwasher to Delete and then set it to automatically delete the same in future you have achieved your purpose. You don't fire off bounced messages to who knows where and you don't hear from that site again. | Scouse (83) | ||
| 451184 | 2006-05-01 23:01:00 | I always bounce spam, using Mailwasher. It's no skin off my nose whether the email networks get a bit more congestion - it's a miniscule fraction of what the spammer's doing. And if congestion get too much, well maybe ISP's will start thinking a bit more seriously about dealing with the problem. Nice mature attitude Greg. Shows great insight into the spam problem. |
Safari (3993) | ||
| 451185 | 2006-05-01 23:35:00 | Hi Organic* I reckon that if you just set your Mailwasher to Delete and then set it to automatically delete the same in future you have achieved your purpose. You don't fire off bounced messages to who knows where and you don't hear from that site again. I should have said... set Mailwasher to Delete and Blacklist..... :rolleyes: |
Scouse (83) | ||
| 451186 | 2006-05-01 23:40:00 | Nice mature attitude Greg. Shows great insight into the spam problem.Nice immature attitude Saf - show's awesome insight into how some people don't recognise the fact that not everyone is a clone. |
Greg (193) | ||
| 451187 | 2006-05-02 01:55:00 | Thanks for all the replies... looks like mailwasher on delete and blacklist :) cheers Pete |
Organicpete (133) | ||
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