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Thread ID: 68571	2006-05-03 12:29:00	New Computer Advice	Baldy (26)	Press F1

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451846	2006-05-07 02:09:00	Baldy, quite a few places have upgrade boxes, even Dell, I believe. Just shop / surf around and compare prices, specs, and warranties / guarantees. Upgrade boxes usually start around $400 for a Sempron cut-down version, and go up to near $1000. PB Technology and Ascent will most likely alter the upgrade box to your requests - just ring them and see what they have to say - I have dealt with both companies and have found the tech/sales advice over the phone to be very good. When I got my system from Ascent, I went through each component and asked (in person) how much it would cost to get something better (if available). It was surprising in most cases not much more $$ got a better component. Like you, I am not a gamer, so opted for a 128 Mb graphics card (that was over 18 months ago). Cheerrs thanks Steve	Baldy (26)
451847	2006-05-07 02:11:00	Hey, don't forget about an OS. Do you have WinXP? Can this be (legally) installed on the new upgrade box?	Strommer (42)
451848	2006-05-07 02:35:00	Oh please. They're all the same, cheap nasty components and support from India. He doesn't have to DIY - every computer shop offers packages. Go to Ascent or someone, you'll get peace of mind, decent components and real service if something does go wrong. Read this about Dell. www.theinquirer.net I have my doubts about that. I think 'The Inquirer' may have been more intrested in sensationalism, than accuracy; even so I suspect the complainant could have done it himself if he put a little more effort into it. Many of us are inclined to pay others to make the effort on our behalf, and then complain that things arent perfect. I bought a Dell 2 years ago. There was nothing undesirable on it, and it is giving me 12 to 16 hours a day every day without problems. It is something in Dells favour, I think that several government departments use Dell, including the police.	Vince (406)
451849	2006-05-07 02:56:00	I have my doubts about that. I think 'The Inquirer' may have been more intrested in sensationalism, than accuracy; even so I suspect the complainant could have done it himself if he put a little more effort into it. Many of us are inclined to pay others to make the effort on our behalf, and then complain that things arent perfect. I bought a Dell 2 years ago. There was nothing undesirable on it, and it is giving me 12 to 16 hours a day every day without problems. It is something in Dells favour, I think that several government departments use Dell, including the police. It wasn't just them reporting it. There is plenty of clutter and rubbish installed on them Shopping adware or not. And government depts are not known for intelligent buying, just bulk buying.	pctek (84)
451850	2006-05-07 03:11:00	By the way, I have been inside my Dell, and the parts are NOT cheap and nasty. Some like the video card had favourable reviews in magazines like PC World. The hard drive is Maxtor Diamond Max; one of the better ones, I think. Here is a tecnical review,_www.digit-life.com	Vince (406)
451851	2006-05-07 06:05:00	Well, If your going to make a statement like that you should at the very least tell us what the items are, what brand and model are the Motherboard,Video card, ram,modem, Whats the PSU? As for Maxtor, Not a brand of HD I would use.	Metla (12)
451852	2006-05-07 10:45:00	dell, like most big manafactures, are well kown for useing cheaper parts. every industry does it. save $1 on parts, sell a million pc's and thats 1 million $$$ profit for doing nothing. actully i just fixed a dell...250w PSU on a 2.6ghz P4 :( not to hard to guess what died. also dell often use cheaper slower vers of parts. for eg i rember some years ago when GF3's had come out, dells GF3 was the slowest ever tested. i think they had used a GF3 ti200 (yep the slow ver) and labeled it as GF3 orginal ver (which is faster) .....nasty nasty :( however i could name some pc which are worse including quite a lot of custom built pc's, so be carefull in your shopping.	tweak'e (69)
451853	2006-05-07 14:43:00	Well, If your going to make a statement like that you should at the very least tell us what the items are, what brand and model are the Motherboard,Video card, ram,modem, Whats the PSU? As for Maxtor, Not a brand of HD I would use. You misunderstand, as usual, Metla. :) It is not my intention to advocate Dell Computers. I am trying to restore some balance to this thread. This is suposed to be a (Mutual Help) forum; not a place to expound our personal preferences loudly enough to drown out every other opinion. It is a fact that Dell Computers offer a product that is simply the best deal for some of us. One phone call and a package arrives at your door, containing everything many people need, or want in a computer. If there is a problem a year or two later, we can be reasonably sure that Dell will still be there. With small manufacturers a car crash, a fatal illness, or other unforseen event may have spelled the demise of the company as well. Dell may not be the computer for you. That is fine, but it is not (HELPFULL) when you tell others that it is not for them! :)	Vince (406)
451854	2006-05-07 20:59:00	Less dribble, more factual information thanks. If as you have stated you are capable of identifying your hardware and declaring it good quality then please make the effort and tell us what it is, otherwise the statement has zero credibility. And the mere fact you purchased a Dell doesn't make it something to recommend to others. Im sure you and the vast majority of Dell customers are quite happy with your purchases....But then so are Mcdonalds customers, Fed sh1t with a smile.	Metla (12)
451855	2006-05-07 21:45:00	By the way, I have been inside my Dell, and the parts are NOT cheap and nasty. Some like the video card had favourable reviews in magazines like PC World. The hard drive is Maxtor Diamond Max; one of the better ones, I think. Here is a tecnical review,_www.digit-life.com Oh yes they are. The only thing you have mentioned is the HDD and how long is the warranty on a Maxtor? 5 years as are Seagates? No. Because they have a high failure rate. This has been observed by the number of dead ones I have had to replace, both in my own repair business and the various places I have worked. Take a look at the specs of your PSU - the bare minimum you can get away with and still have it boot. And the brand of your motherboard? Never one of the decent ones...	pctek (84)
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