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452544 2006-05-19 02:49:00 I agree with Sweep that that is a good idea. However, I would suggest copying the data over and once you are sure all is well then you can delete it off the original partition.
Hi Foxy
I have copied over the data as you suggested - that is, at this stage have copied My Documents. Will delete the originals soon. :thumbs:

Should I also copy "Documents and Settings" ? :)
Misty
Misty (368)
452545 2006-05-19 03:03:00 It wouldn't hurt to, Misty. That darn Documents and Settings folder can contain quite a few rather important files, such as your address book and favorites folder, which you don't think about until after they are gone. :stare: :badpc:

I have moved those files and other essentials out of D&S to my Data folder but have still been caught out once or twice in the past with other files. :rolleyes:
FoxyMX (5)
452546 2006-05-19 03:12:00 It wouldn't hurt to, Misty. That darn Documents and Settings folder can contain quite a few rather important files, such as your address book and favorites folder, which you don't think about until after they are gone. :stare: :badpc:
So Foxy, if you have them in your data folder presumably they are amended there when you make some change ie you get a new favourite or bookmark ?

If say you were to leave the originals where they were and do a copy on the other drive then presumably the original would be the one amended (unless you changed the parameters) and you would have to update the files on the second drive every so often ?
Misty :help:
Misty (368)
452547 2006-05-19 04:37:00 Most of the data files can be moved and their location amended from within the program itself, eg Outlook Express DBX folders and Internet Explorer's favorites folder but since I don't use it now I can't remember what happened with the address book . I think I had to remember to manually make backup copies of that one .

Another reason why you might want to backup the D&S folder is because programs like Opera, Eudora, Trillian, Firefox, etc save your profiles there as well as your data files . If you do a reinstall of Windows those profile folders can be copied back again so that all your program settings are retained .

I have moved the data files such as Opera's bookmarks, Eudora's email folders, Trillian's logs, etc to my Data folder and the file paths changed to that location . That way they all get backed up daily to the other hard drive . Not sure whether you can do that with Firefox though .
FoxyMX (5)
452548 2006-05-19 08:24:00 When you change the default folder for MyDocs you're given the option to move the files.

If you click "Yes" everything is moved to the new folder and the old folder is deleted. You have to create the new folder before you start.

If you click "No" your stuff stays where it is but the default folder is changed. In this case you can then copy everything to the new folder.

In either case you should make a backup copy first in another folder or disc.

If you use Outlook you can set it up to save the outlook.pst file and archive files to D: drive as well. you move the files to a new Outlook directory, then when Outlook screams bloody murder, you redirect it to the new folder.

If you later re-install Windows you must be careful to install to the partition only, it's easy to wipe the D: drive by mistake during installation.

Same goes for restoring image files.

Remember that if your HDD dies you've lost everything from all partitions, so don't rely on a second partition as your only backup.
Vallis (8886)
452549 2006-05-19 10:09:00 When you change the default folder for MyDocs you're given the option to move the files .
Whilst I have done this successfully myself in the past I am now very nervous about trusting Windows to perform such delicate manoevres these days . I have lost data moving and cutting and pasting, including files that hadn't been backed up first so I now prefer to do things myself my own way .

The other thing that concerns me is that I prefer to have nothing to do with Windows My Documents, etc as Windows is known to wipe out everything should a profile become corrupt or during a failed system restore . It is much safer, in my opinion, to create your own folders and copy things over then, when all has gone well, delete the original files .


In either case you should make a backup copy first in another folder or disc .
This is critical if you value your data .
FoxyMX (5)
452550 2006-06-02 00:44:00 Hi Foxy
I use Outlook Express and the path it is saved to is:

C:\Documents and Settings\User\Local Settings\Application Data\Identities\{E46D334D-F623-404C-BB89-123F7A0B7834}\Microsoft\Outlook Express
Would I be safe to substitute something like:

D:\Messages
or best to keep with a small change

D:\Documents and Settings\User\Local Settings\Application Data\Identities\{E46D334D-F623-404C-BB89-123F7A0B7834}\Microsoft\Outlook Express
please ?
The only other person who uses the PC is Mrs Misty and then only for a few programs such as email, excel and card games. When our kids visit they use it a little too.
Misty :help:
Misty (368)
452551 2006-06-02 11:21:00 Would I be safe to substitute something like: D:\Messages
That will be fine Misty . There is no need to make it the same as the original folder, it will go where you put it .

Just be sure to make backups of your data before you start moving things around . . . . just in case .

I found a trick in Cardfile for moving the Address Book as well but as I haven't actually tried it I can't say how well it works . It looks OK so if you want me to post it just sing out .

Let us know how you get on . :)
FoxyMX (5)
452552 2006-06-09 08:47:00 That will be fine Misty . There is no need to make it the same as the original folder, it will go where you put it .

Just be sure to make backups of your data before you start moving things around . . . . just in case .

Hi Foxy
Well I have created the new folder in D:\, copied everything over, and re-directed the mail . Also have did a backup first -- to be sure, to be sure !!

Tests so far inconclusive - I have done a final delete of stuff in the deleted items folder in Express as a test and then had a look at D:\ Deleted folder . . . . . but no change in size ? Even when I refresh . . . . or even re-boot the whole computer, so not sure what is going on there . On the other hand the size of the [old] equivalent in C:\ has not changed either .

Will do further testing :waughh:
Misty
Misty (368)
452553 2006-06-09 08:56:00 If you use Outlook you can set it up to save the outlook . pst file and archive files to D: drive as well . you move the files to a new Outlook directory, then when Outlook screams bloody murder, you redirect it to the new folder .

If you later re-install Windows you must be careful to install to the partition only, it's easy to wipe the D: drive by mistake during installation .

Same goes for restoring image files .

Remember that if your HDD dies you've lost everything from all partitions, so don't rely on a second partition as your only backup .
Hi Vallis
I have Outlook, but do not use it . Have thought odd times but it with limited time and more pressing concerns it has not been a priority .

Will keep in mind what you say about a restore . It is good advice . :thumbs:

I certainly do not rely on the other partition as a backup
-- you only need to look at my signature !!

Still working on suggestions from Foxy
Thanks for the response .
Misty :)
Misty (368)
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