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459127	2006-06-01 10:43:00	Hi Bletch "... charge offsite" You would be meaning that i ask my neighbour (2 km away) to alow me to charge extra batteries at his place! Another factor is that spare batteries cost about $200 at least. Please explain a little further as to how an IP phone can operate in an area where there is no landline, wireless reception, or cellphone coverage. Or have I misinterpreted some of the info that i have received. Does it connect via the laptop to the broadband satellite coverage that i will need to set up? If so, what are the extra per minute charges like? The Iridium costs are prohibitive. Cheers Gary	garyasta (1151)
459128	2006-06-01 13:18:00	By IP phone, I mean a device that you plug into an internet connection. Any internet connection. Even satellite. The laptop does not need to be involved at any stage. The VOIP provider will usually cost less than a normal, urban Telecom phone line. There are no additional charges other than the VOIP provider. Regarding your neighbor - Superuser had no idea if this was viable, but was just suggesting an alternative. No offense intended, but I think you need to read the posts more carefully before asking questions - post #6 explains most of this.	Erayd (23)
459129	2006-06-01 19:55:00	Hi Obviously, i have misinterpreted the info that the various internet providers have given me, in that the area that i will be living in would not support a standard IP phone or internet connection because of the lack of reception. Skype and internet via the satellite appeared to be the only system that didn't cost the earth to use. There are moves afoot for changes in systems to provide a service but not at the moment. Cheers Gary	garyasta (1151)
459130	2006-06-01 22:01:00	area that i will be living in would not support a standard IP phone or internet connection internet via the satellite I give up. :waughh:	superuser (7693)
459131	2006-06-01 23:05:00	I give up.Me too. Final Reply: Garyasta, it doesn't matter what type of internet connection you have, satellite or otherwise. The only problem you might experience is a small lag. Your satellite connection will support an IP phone.	Erayd (23)
459132	2006-06-02 02:07:00	Hi Guys Thanks for your input. I have been getting a set of mixed messages from various internet providers, some say there are satisfactory satellite internet/'phone setups, others say there aren't. Cheers Gary	garyasta (1151)
459133	2006-06-02 06:43:00	Well, perhaps I have missed something here? If the intent is that the phone is available for incoming calls (hence the original subject re hibernation), this will require, if using satellite, that the satellite LNB and associated modem electronics will also need to be powered 24/7 or the whole point is a waste of time. If the RAPS (Remote Area Power System) is such that the 24/7 phantom load is not able to be supported (as it will be "significant" in terms of watts, I believe) then VOIP in any form, either IP phone or laptop with VOIP installed, is not going to be always available. I fully understand RAPS and have qualications in that specific subject, though do not practice in the field. I do just wonder if Garyasta has also factored in the load of the satellite electronics 24/7?	godfather (25)
459134	2006-06-05 23:25:00	Hi Godfather No! Satellite electronics energy consunption had not been allocated during original solar system configurations, so looking at a 24/7 system is definitely a no-no! The laptop energy allowance had only been set at 500 watts per day also (maybe I was a little mean here, I now note that the 230v adaptor is rated at 100-240v ~1.5a). We won't be using the system to the fullest extent until the new year when we move there and until then we won't know how much loading we really will have, but expect to be as frugal as poss. with energy efficient frig/freezer, washing machine, no water heating, efficient lighting, etc. The system involves 8x120 watt panels and 8x6v 350ah batteries setup to provide 24v at 700ah storage, inverted to 230vac. A 2.4kva petrol generator to be used as backup (I hope not!). Maybe I should have spoken to you before setting up our system. Mind you, at that time I didn't know that Telecom was going to ask us to pay to help set up their Northland communications system. Cheers Gary	garyasta (1151)
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