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1402735	2015-06-15 11:09:00	Just to experiment dual booting, I set up the following: First, I have a 250GB HDD installed Win7 - with C:\ (100GB) and D:\ (150GB) everything works just fine. :) , power down the PC. I then installed another HDD of 500GB, changed the BIOS and set this as the first boot device. I then installed Win8 onto this HDD; also partitioned into two partitions, C:\ and D: works OK. Restarted the PC, works OK. But, if I change the first HDD (250GB with Win7 installed) as my first Boot device, it tries to start Windows 7 and and half way through, Windows will start to perform Hard disk check, it takes a couple of minutes to complete the disk check. It finally boots OK, though. If I select the 500GB (Windows 8) as my first boot device, it boots up OK - no disk check. Any explanation to this and how do I stop Win7 from checking the HDD before it loads?	bk T (215)
1402736	2015-06-15 11:36:00	That's quite an experiment, the order for installation should be, start with oldests to newest. So you install w7 to first drive then install w8 to second drive, letting w8 control the booting of both OS, not change which drive comes first to determine which OS boots. But this is an experiment and maybe you would like to switch orders. Means 2 separate bootloaders, each on their own drive. NTFS does journaling, meaning the OS keeps track of what it's done on the drive, however if you use the w8 to alter something on w7, w7 doesn't know about that change in which case when it starts it may think something had gone wrong or it felt it didn't shutdown correctly. This is really a hit and miss, sometimes it doesn't affect it but sometimes it can, probably depends what was accessed and what was altered. There could be other issues, but changing first boot drive wasn't the intended way for dual booting and be a huge confusion over who is C drive and who is D drive. Maybe there's no confusion? Haven't used Windows in a long time. Cheers, KK	Kame (312)
1402737	2015-06-15 21:34:00	See if this fixes it ---- Try going into the Power options / System Settings in Windows 8.1 Uncheck "Turn on fast startup" under shutdown settings. 6524 The fast startup in W8.1 can sometimes cause problems with the other OS ( and its self), as when you shut down W8.1 its not really shutdown, and W7 may think there was a problem. Why disable ‘Fast Startup’: Failure to disable the fast startup option can result in ‘Check Disk’ (chkdsk) running when installing Windows 7. You may also no longer see the dual boot menu the next time you turn on your computer. Also if you have more than 1 disk drive chkdsk will run each time you shut down from within Windows 8 and then boot to Windows 7. Fast Startup in Windows 8 is designed to close and reopen by fast booting (Hybrid Boot), it has left your system in a partially hibernated state, with the drive mounted and according to Microsoft "effectively saving the system state and memory contents to a file on disk (hiberfil.sys) and then reading that back in on resume and restoring contents back to memory." I had all sorts of weird problems when W8 came out on one PC, disabling this cured it.	wainuitech (129)
1402738	2015-06-15 22:57:00	The 'Turn on fast startup' is checked and 'greyed' -- cannot be unchecked. Why?	bk T (215)
1402739	2015-06-15 23:16:00	The 'Turn on fast startup' is checked and 'greyed' -- cannot be unchecked. Why? It's being a b1tch :p LOL OK serious: have a read of this: www.addictivetips.com Roughly half way down the page.	wainuitech (129)
1402740	2015-06-15 23:50:00	Got it changed. Restarted and select W7 to boot in BIOS - Win7 is still doing the check disk before it loads! Kame: "...start with oldests to newest ..." That's what I did, I installed Win7 first and Win8.1 later. Or, should I do the other way round? Win8 first and then Win7? Since the 2 OS are on different physical drives, and the boot sequence is selected from BIOS, does it really matter? The only differences are, Win8 is using different file format?	bk T (215)
1402741	2015-06-15 23:55:00	Would have been better if you did both on 1 hdd. Than use 2 separate hdd's. Then you wouldnt have to change the bootdisk. If this is what you have to do now No you usually install the earliest to the latest 7 then 8.	Speedy Gonzales (78)
1402742	2015-06-16 00:04:00	Theres no need to change the boot options all the time in the BIOS, by doing that you are confusing the hell out of the loaders. When you start the Computer, you should be presented with options to boot into W7 or W8.1 , then using the arrow keys, move up/down to select and press enter- If you're not then its not installed correctly.	wainuitech (129)
1402743	2015-06-16 00:23:00	Theres no need to change the boot options all the time in the BIOS, by doing that you are confusing the hell out of the loaders. When you start the Computer, you should be presented with options to boot into W7 or W8.1 , then using the arrow keys, move up/down to select and press enter- If you're not then its not installed correctly. How do I do that? I don't get the options to boot into W7 or W8.1.	bk T (215)
1402744	2015-06-16 00:56:00	You should connect both hdds at the same time. Then install 7 then 8. Just remember what hdd Win7 is on before you install Win8 Then it should give you an option to boot from either one.	Speedy Gonzales (78)
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