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1403043 2015-06-23 03:18:00 An update to the "Upcoming Changes" statement. Clarifies things a lot.


and at the same time leaves things muddied

Why not use clear, easy to understand language ? state in clear terms, just what will actually eventually happens to insiders installs.
ie ~insiders Win10 stays activated~.....but for how long ? Why not make it 100% clear that it was a test version & will expire, eventually.
Or otherwise state that the last insider version wont ever expire after that Win10 insider scheme has runs its course

Everyone is left to guess/speculate...yet again
:punk
1101 (13337)
1403044 2015-06-23 05:13:00 The way I read that last link ( in a coconut shell) Nut shell is to small :)

If you are using free versions supplied by the insider program, you will still get the same as the RTM on or about the 29th July ( but time bombed), Since MS are still developing more features, the insider versions will still be time limited and upgrade to the new features ( and remain free as they currently are).
Before the expiry date of the testing install expires MS are either going to have to have a newer version out with a new date, or send through a patch to extend the time bomb --Or simply can the whole idea.

If you upgrade from W7 or W8.1, you will get what ever version is available on the 29th - Yours to keep and activated, no time limits.


When the "new features" that the insider versions are finished being tested, they will be offered as updates /upgrades to the W7/W8.1 upgrades. You have 1 year, till the 29th July 2016 to upgrade for free from W7/8.1. AFTER 29th July 2016 if you want to upgrade you will need to pay for it.

If you Have already upgraded before 29th July 2016, it doesn't matter when you do a reinstall ( say two years time) the windows store will have the license used and on reinstalling simply activate.

:2cents::2cents::2cents: ( inflation 2 cents is out dated :)
wainuitech (129)
1403045 2015-06-23 09:58:00 and at the same time leaves things muddied

Why not use clear, easy to understand language ? state in clear terms, just what will actually eventually happens to insiders installs.
ie ~insiders Win10 stays activated~.....but for how long ? Why not make it 100% clear that it was a test version & will expire, eventually.
Or otherwise state that the last insider version wont ever expire after that Win10 insider scheme has runs its course

Everyone is left to guess/speculate...yet again
:punk

Its clear, jump on the Windows Insiders program and you will be looked after.

This is not a method for a business to pirate copies of Windows for their users etc or resell them
nmercer (3899)
1403046 2015-06-23 10:13:00 The wait for SP1 mentality went away 5-10 years ago

Not really, Windows 10 is Windows 8\Metro's SP1... ;)
Agent_24 (57)
1403047 2015-06-23 10:34:00 and Windows 7 was Windows Vista SP3? nmercer (3899)
1403048 2015-06-23 11:26:00 Windows 10 I predict could be a nightmare to help with on here.

I was reading MS are developing W10 continuously even after July 29th and offering the upgrades, so unlike previous versions of windows, there wont be XP then Vista- then W7-W8 etc It will be simply Windows 10 but what build as it develops. So when a new section or alteration comes out it will be added and W10 "base" and it changes.

Obviously some things will be the same, BUT like the previews as time goes on, certain functions are added, changed, (removed - maybe). :waughh:

So if anyone asks for help with W10 - the first question-- "What build are you using" :confused: Example Build 10130 is quite different to build 10147

I can see the command winver being used a LOT ;)

Guess it will keep techs on their toes keeping up with all the developments. This is where the Insider Program with the Free versions will come in handy.
wainuitech (129)
1403049 2015-06-23 11:51:00 and Windows 7 was Windows Vista SP3?

Hardly, not even SP10 could have saved Windows ME Mk.II :p
Agent_24 (57)
1403050 2015-06-24 01:28:00 Regarding continuous updating, I see this as a way of stopping us from having to ask what vers or build. I believe the aim is to upgrade everyone continuously so we would all be on the same version/build i.e. the latest.

Good theory but we will see how it pans out.

Personally I am hopeful and welcome the change.
linw (53)
1403051 2015-06-24 04:14:00 and Windows 7 was Windows Vista SP3?

In a way, it kind of was. :p
Im sure there wasnt a complete re-write of the OS, thats pretty obvious just from how similar they were. In fact, some Vista bugs carried through to 7 .
Vista SP2 wasnt all that bad after all, if the PC has more than 1G RAM :-) . It was pretty much fixed up by SP1.

re 10's continous updating...
that would help explain 10home having Updates not able to be turned off .
1101 (13337)
1403052 2015-06-24 13:01:00 Windows 10 I predict could be a nightmare to help with on here.

I was reading MS are developing W10 continuously even after July 29th and offering the upgrades, so unlike previous versions of windows, there wont be XP then Vista- then W7-W8 etc It will be simply Windows 10 but what build as it develops. So when a new section or alteration comes out it will be added and W10 "base" and it changes.

Obviously some things will be the same, BUT like the previews as time goes on, certain functions are added, changed, (removed - maybe). :waughh:

So if anyone asks for help with W10 - the first question-- "What build are you using" :confused: Example Build 10130 is quite different to build 10147

I can see the command winver being used a LOT ;)

Guess it will keep techs on their toes keeping up with all the developments. This is where the Insider Program with the Free versions will come in handy.

It doesn't seem to be a problem for other OSes that keep themselves up to date. Think ChromeOS, iOS etc

This is what people have been asking for to be delivered in Windows, a modern OS

No one is forcing anyone to upgrade to Windows 10. People can quite happily stick on the old stuff. windows 7 released in 2009 and its supported for another 4 or so years.

Businesses can defer updates, they can manage them with Windows Update for Business, or they can put Windows 10 into Long Term Support Branch and have no feature updates, just security updates
nmercer (3899)
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