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Thread ID: 138719 2015-01-12 00:28:00 Am I getting old or...... DeSade (984) PC World Chat
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1392003 2015-01-13 05:22:00 You are correct.
I will go so far as to say perhaps less of them should survive as well no one can deny it would most certainly help.

The huge death toll in Africa is necessary, unpalatable to most but necessary.

China has the biggest population but don't they still have the one child policy, what more can they do. Their society has evolved to the point where they are not losing thousands of these children like Africa does so it is correcting itself, breeding less as more survive but there is a long way still to go.

If Africa evolves to the point where a greater percentage survive but they do not curb birth rates then I cannot see the Western countries being able to stay on the sidelines, the birth rate must fall to accommodate higher survival either this is done by the various countries in Africa or it is forced upon them from the West but the planet cannot sustain their birth-rate with an increase in survival rates.

India is the next major issue, higher survival but no birth rate restrictions of any kind, that will blow up in a few decades.

Now the Western countries including NZ have our own form of this problem. Far too many births that are paid for by the tax-payer and need to be curbed, but right now this is a social issue not a population issue.

Excellent post by well respected pressf1 member
prefect (6291)
1392004 2015-01-13 05:57:00 Excellent post by well respected pressf1 member:+1: paulw (1826)
1392005 2015-01-13 06:38:00 Some people dead in France - big news.
More dead in Africa - not news....no-one mentions the missing girls now either, imagine if that was 200 French girls.....or 200 American girls.

HM The Queen recently questioned why malaria was continuing to kill thousands more - on a monthly basis - than does the Ebola virus, yet there was little to no publicity afforded that fact.

I guess it's what the news media sees as what sells and what doesn't. :annoyed:
WalOne (4202)
1392006 2015-01-13 06:48:00 I will go so far as to say perhaps less of them should survive as well .

If Africa evolves to the point where a greater percentage survive but they do not curb birth rates then I cannot see the Western countries being able to stay on the sidelines, the birth rate must fall to accommodate higher survival

Now the Western countries including NZ have our own form of this problem. Far too many births that are paid for by the tax-payer .

I think having children should be strictly regulated. Everyone is sterilised, some of the necessary ingredient saved perhaps, so that if you pass the rigorous testing and criteria, you can have 1 child.

So the majority won't. And money isn't going to be the main criteria either. Ability, character etc....money can be solved if they qualify...
That would solve heaps of issues:

Unemployment
Pollution
Loss of animal habitat
Overcrowding
Religious rubbish around births and gender of births
Resource shortages
Child abuse

The last, well if there were bugger all kids in the word, everyone would be making damn sure they were safe and well cared for. Perverts would be executed.
It would eliminate children lacking in material things, food, education and ensure there was no mistreatment

It is a population issue.
If there is loads of room, loads of resources, there isn't any justification to invade another country and steal their stuff is there.

And more personally, everyone would have plenty of room to live without being jammed together, have enough work etc.

OK, it wouldn't be utopia, there is always something, and Chinas one child policy....well.

But if it was worldwide (probably impossible) and enforced, it could, at least in theory.

But I suspect we'll carry on breeding like flies, treating each other like **** and gobbling everything in sight as fast as we can and as selfishly as we can until it all comes to grief.
pctek (84)
1392007 2015-01-13 07:01:00 And. Stop we should stop wasting money on rubbish....war mongering, pointless council projects, over payment for people who don't do anything special.
Stop feeding money into pointless prolonging of life too. That's not to say there is no medical treatment, just quit when there isn't any reason to continue.

If someone must be kept alive by racks of machines, then they're not living anyway.
Transplants...meh. Same thing.

Euthanasia should be permitted and managed so it's a simple pleasant process for those who have decided not to bother anymore.
pctek (84)
1392008 2015-01-14 02:25:00 Education is the cure here, not just basic reading, writing, and maths, but also an understanding of our society and how it works and compares with other societies. Far too many people are failing economically because they are not working with the system they are not really aware of, and it is clobbering them. If the population is educated, well informed and participating in their society, there would be a lot more good options at all levels of society. PPp (9511)
1392009 2015-01-14 08:14:00 And. Stop we should stop wasting money on rubbish....war mongering, pointless council projects, over payment for people who don't do anything special.
Stop feeding money into pointless prolonging of life too. That's not to say there is no medical treatment, just quit when there isn't any reason to continue.

If someone must be kept alive by racks of machines, then they're not living anyway.
Transplants...meh. Same thing.

Euthanasia should be permitted and managed so it's a simple pleasant process for those who have decided not to bother anymore.

I don't post much now but for the first time I agree with you except for: " Transplants...meh. Same thing." That very sentiment is one of the contributing factors that hold our whole medical industry back. I believe everyone has the right to live as long as they wish too. Sure there are plenty of unlucky people who die through injury/accident but if the difference between a chance of a normal long life and death was a transplant of any type how could you possibly justify denying that?
hueybot3000 (3646)
1392010 2015-01-14 08:21:00 The biggest problem this world will always face is educating people. You can point fingers at India and Africa etc but the real reason they are how they are is there just isn't the education to impose change for the better. We can send them food and medicine but it's really just patching the problem. PPp is spot on. hueybot3000 (3646)
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