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462129	2006-06-11 19:31:00	Xandros isn't a live CD, it only comes in a version that requires installation to a hard drive . I just grabbbed the distro as I was shopping . . for future use . . . maybe . Does everyone go thru this shopping? One big problem I seem to have is that this puter is Athlon, and the one I am running the demos on is P III . I see that there are differing version for those systems . But I am going to concentrate on the P III types for now and just use this ENERMAX Athlon for downloading the . iso's . So far, I have about 4 distros on cd-rom, and still trying them out . I really like the look (as far as I could see it anyway!) of Knoppix, but alas, it won't run on that P III with the graphics card it has . I kinda liked the penguin . I was wondering if Lindows is just transmorphed into a different distro? I know most real L users scoff at it, but I think I read that it now has a new name and look . Saw RedHat and a few others that look interesting, but the warning about having very good L abilities scares me off .	SurferJoe46 (51)
462130	2006-06-11 19:37:00	If your hardware is a little old, then using these options will allow the LiveCD to run . You may find other LiveCDs will not give you this option and will have problems like Knoppix did . Did you ever try the Knoppix cheat code I suggested and got it to boot? Many of the LiveCDs are designed for more modern computers . Doing a hard drive installation will allow you more flexibility, but it may indicate you may need to do a bit of tweaking to get your video to play nicely . :) Yes, I tried the cheat code but it was negative . . . . . that's interesting that one can make changes to the program at boot . . . . very interesting . Like I said in the last post (our posts/counterposts are crossing in the ether), I will keep all the ones I get and try them on both these units . Right now, I am trying the demos via live-cd's on the P III . I really appreciate your attention to my trials and tribulations today, last night and any I can get in the future .	SurferJoe46 (51)
462131	2006-06-12 05:18:00	Surfer Joe You seem keen to learn to use Linux. I am sure that you must be younger than I am and I managed to make the change. I have progressed to the point where I don't use windoze at all and haven't missed it. If you're used to XP, you might find Xandros easiest to understand with its file presentation and handling. I have used Mandriva, Knoppix, Simply Mepis and still find that I prefer Xandros. Dual booting with XP or whatever is not a problem. There is plenty of advice on the Xandros forums and they are a real helpful bunch there (many of them are US or Canadian). Xandros is due for a new release any day now (Xandros 4.0). The current version is not as up to date as some but IMHO it is very stable. It has been out since late 2004 with a SP release sometime in 2005. It just does what I want it to do. Be prepared though, the learning curve is quite time consuming. After a few months, I now feel confident to be able to deal with most changes that I need like upgrading Firefox and Thunderbird to their latest versions. I also run a Linux version of Mailwasher (registration copied over from the Windoze version), and AVG for Linux Workstation. The important thing is to have fun Jim :)	Hhel (8073)
462132	2006-06-12 05:57:00	Hi Surfer I have a 466mhz and a 733mhz machine and have found that Ubuntu runs slow on them. I have found Puppy live cd good (faster) and only 60mb to download. I suspect that all of the larger (I mean more than 60mb download) would be slow on these older machines.	worl (8599)
462133	2006-06-12 06:19:00	You will probably find that many KDE based distros (Kubuntu (NOT Ubuntu), Knoppix, Mepis) may run slower than Gnome based distros (Ubuntu, Fedora etc) on slower hardware. Primarily because KDE has a lot more configurations/effects visually. As for Linux distro shopping... currently I have FC3,4,5 Suse 10, SimplyMepis, Arch, Gentoo, FreeBSD, Ubuntu (2 releases), Xandros and Knoppix (2 releases). I also sold my version of Mandriva (I had bought it from DSE and the guy was happy to pay for it). I have been using Linux for approx a year now, Gentoo for 9 months. Until a couple of weeks ago I had dual boot abilities with XP but didn't boot to XP so deleted the partition and set it up for linux storage. I will be keeping an eye out for the next release of Xandros, as I am looking for a distro that will run on slower hardware (for my partner), and am watching this thread to see how you get on.	Myth (110)
462134	2006-06-12 06:41:00	........ as I am looking for a distro that will run on slower hardware (for my partner), and am watching this thread to see how you get on.One word: puppy Two comments: 1. Its brilliant and runs on the smell of a oily CPU 2. My son Ziggy, who is allergic to reading more than 2 sentences of instructions found it easy to install on several of our machines saved from dumpsters.	personthingy (1670)
462135	2006-06-12 06:44:00	Surfer Joe You seem keen to learn to use Linux . I am sure that you must be younger than I am and I managed to make the change . I have progressed to the point where I don't use windoze at all and haven't missed it . If you're used to XP, you might find Xandros easiest to understand with its file presentation and handling . I have used Mandriva, Knoppix, Simply Mepis and still find that I prefer Xandros . Dual booting with XP or whatever is not a problem . There is plenty of advice on the Xandros forums and they are a real helpful bunch there (many of them are US or Canadian) . Xandros is due for a new release any day now (Xandros 4 . 0) . The current version is not as up to date as some but IMHO it is very stable . It has been out since late 2004 with a SP release sometime in 2005 . It just does what I want it to do . Be prepared though, the learning curve is quite time consuming . After a few months, I now feel confident to be able to deal with most changes that I need like upgrading Firefox and Thunderbird to their latest versions . I also run a Linux version of Mailwasher (registration copied over from the Windoze version), and AVG for Linux Workstation . The important thing is to have fun Jim :) The tip off is the last numbers in my screenname . . the 46 is short for 1946 . . . my y/o/b . So, I am not much younger that yourself . I am still trying out a few distros and need to keep the confusion to a minimum . . . as they are all pretty neat and have their own values . Not being committed yet . . . as everyone says I should be, I am still taking the Columbus route and searching for the one that suits me best . In the next week or so I should have a decision . I keep on hearing that I don't need antispyware and antivirus stuff . . . I wonder if the ones I have are useless now (on the Linux side, anyway) and should not be carried over . Just for kicks and giggles, I threw caution to the wind and tried to install from the desktop icon "Install Me Now" in Mepis, but it asked for a "/" partition and yet would not alow me to enter one or even when I clicked on the down arrow in that window, there was no other choice . I got denied . Do I have to partition a new area for the install? It said it could do a custom install with freespace in the unused areas in the hdb anyway . That is what I would like . . . to leave the partitions alone that exist now and just let Mepis have it's way with the hdb, not the hda . As it is hdb has almost nothing in it at this time anyway . I loaded the security things there and (we are talking about the DELL here - P III/650, not the Enermax Athlon XP/2 . 3), I COULD remove them or send them to the hda . It sure feels strange mixing the hda/hdb stuff with Mstr0/Mstr1 when I am talking in Windows and Linux at the same time . Do Canadians speak English?	SurferJoe46 (51)
462136	2006-06-12 06:45:00	About WMP Linux has its own media players, so you wont need to run WMP Mepis, which is what i use has it all preinstalled.	personthingy (1670)
462137	2006-06-12 06:53:00	About WMP Linux has its own media players, so you wont need to run WMP Mepis, which is what i use has it all preinstalled. Since I know you are much more informed about things that go "L", could you try a url to see if you can force feed it to your distro and see if you can get it to run? Here's the url: a814.l1977144512.c19771.g.lm.akamaistream.net It is my favorite am radio station (KFI 640, Los Angeles) and I will sorely miss it if I cannot get it into the distro I choose. I got it to play without the player they wanted me to use...after a while of deep searching, and I can play it in WMP10 very easily. It is not listenable in my area over the airwaves because of the ELF antennas the US Navy has underground here.	SurferJoe46 (51)
462138	2006-06-12 07:18:00	I keep on hearing that I don't need antispyware and antivirus stuff . . . I wonder if the ones I have are useless now (on the Linux side, anyway) and should not be carried over . Antivirus for linux is more about intercepting viri so that they don't infect other machines . You don't need it to protect your own machine . Also, try to remember, most programs wont run on both systems, consider them to be different species, or better still, consider one to be a carbon based life form, and the other to be something yet undiscovered that would send current thinking about what constitutes lifeforms into a spin Just for kicks and giggles, I threw caution to the wind and tried to install from the desktop icon "Install Me Now" in Mepis, but it asked for a "/" partition and yet would not alow me to enter one or even when I clicked on the down arrow in that window, there was no other choice . I got denied . Do I have to partition a new area for the install? It said it could do a custom install with freespace in the unused areas in the hdb anyway . If you have unused partitions, you can use them, but easier ( i think) is to use Qparted to make a partition or 3 or after your windows partition . . I'm assuming you are setting up a dual boot here . Mepis, and most distros like one partition for "/" (the system and stuff) "/swap" (the swap file) and "/home" which is where you keep your preferences and other user specific data . Be very careful not to formatt you windows partition . . read what warnings come up, and there will be warnings if data is in the partitions you are about to use	personthingy (1670)
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