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462048 2006-06-10 12:15:00 Senario:

Linksys BEFW11S wireless broadband router (IP Address: 192.168.1.1) connected to Dlink 302 (IP Address: 10.1.1.1) ADSL modem (from Xtra)

Laptop running XP Pro connecting (wireless) to Linksys BEFW11S wireless broadband router

Desktop PC (XP Pro) connecting to Linksys BEFW11S wireless broadband router's ethernet port though cable.

Both Laptop and Desktop have no problem in accessing the Internet.

Set up LAN using XP's Wizard (and also manually, assigning a unique computer name and a Workgroup name - same for both computers). But both computers cannot 'see' each other. All computers are set to obtaining IP address and DNS automatically.

Repeated the process many times but to no avail.

Advice, please.

Cheers
bk T (215)
462049 2006-06-10 14:39:00 More than likely firewall issues - what are you running as a firewall? Try disconnecting the internet, and turning off the firewalls and see if you can 'see' either machine then.

Can you access the computers directly? ie, typing //computer_name1 into the address bar?

Hope this helps.
roddy_boy (4115)
462050 2006-06-10 15:12:00 Set up a "shared folder" in each computer that the other computer is allowed to access.

Transfer files that way, don't allow full access to each other or they can share viruses as well.
zqwerty (97)
462051 2006-06-10 21:50:00 No firewall other than XP's own has been installed.

Shared folder has been created but they just don't see each other at all. Ping other computer name but no reply.

I never set up a wireless LAN before. Are there any settings which are different from a wired LAN?

Cheers
bk T (215)
462052 2006-06-10 22:47:00 Set up LAN using XP's Wizard (and also manually, assigning a unique computer name and a Workgroup name - same for both computers) . But both computers cannot 'see' each other . All computers are set to obtaining IP address and DNS automatically .

As already mentioned in the forum, a couple of 100 times, DO NOT use the Wizard, or put LANS on obtain an ip automatically .

Coz when you reboot (if u do) the ip's will change on the PC's .

BUT, if u put the ip addresses in manually, they'll stick like glue, and stay the same when u reboot .

Wireless is exactly the same as wired LANS . Go back into the LAN properties on both, change it to use the following ip address and put the ip addresses in manually .

Also, make sure the workgroup names are the same .

And if you're using XP SP2, use the Wireless Network Wizard . . .

BUT, if the PCI cards / whatever they are, came with drivers, that let you configure them, use that instead .

I would also install something better than XP's firewall . Its not exactly the best firewall, especially for Wireless .
Speedy Gonzales (78)
462053 2006-06-10 23:08:00 As already mentioned in the forum, a couple of 100 times, DO NOT use the Wizard, or put LANS on obtain an ip automatically.

Coz when you reboot (if u do) the ip's will change on the PC's.

BUT, if u put the ip addresses in manually, they'll stick like glue, and stay the same when u reboot.

Wireless is exactly the same as wired LANS. Go back into the LAN properties on both, change it to use the following ip address and put the ip addresses in manually.

Also, make sure the workgroup names are the same.

And if you're using XP SP2, use the Wireless Network Wizard...

BUT, if the PCI cards / whatever they are, came with drivers, that let you configure them, use that instead.

I would also install something better than XP's firewall. Its not exactly the best firewall, especially for Wireless.

In my case as mentioned above, what default gateway address should I use, 192.168.1.1 (Linksys Wireless Router) or 10.1.1.1 (Dlink ADSL router)?

I tried to set the addresses manually but they could not even access the Internet!
I was using the Wireless addresses: 192.168.1.33 and 192.168.1.43 with subnet 255.255.255.255
What address range should I use? The 192.168.1. xxx or the 10.1.1.xxx?
bk T (215)
462054 2006-06-10 23:45:00 Umm, I think the subnet should be 255.255.255.0 not 255 at the end as well.

Try using 192.xxx and try both routers as the gateway. (one after the other). Might be 10.1.1.1 for the gateway.

See which one gets it on the net.
Speedy Gonzales (78)
462055 2006-06-10 23:48:00 Sorry. the subnet is 255.255.255.0 bk T (215)
462056 2006-06-11 03:18:00 I think it's a routing problem, not a "wireless" problem .

Am I right in my guess that the Wireless Router has multiple ports, into which there are plugged (i) the ADSL router, and (ii) the desktop?

If so:


You have given the computers similar IP addresses, in the same range, as if they are in a single LAN .

But you have two LANs, which can talk only through the wireless router . :(

The wired LAN is in the 10 . 10 . 0 . X range and includes the private side of ADSL router and the desktop . The wireless LAN, in the 192 . 168 . 0 . Y range, has the laptop all on its own .

Although the two computers are in the same numeric range, there is no route to connect them . They are on different physical networks .

Give the laptop an IP in the 192 range; and the desktop one in the 10 range .
:cool:

If not: BIIK . :D
Graham L (2)
462057 2006-06-11 03:53:00 DHCP setup

Modem
10.1.1.1
Serve DHCP

Accesspoint
10.1.1.2
Turn off DHCP server

Desktop
Obtain IP's DHCP

Laptop
Obtain IP's DHCP

Fixed IP setup


Modem
10.1.1.1
Turn off DHCP server

Access Point
10.1.1.2
Turn off DHCP server

Desktop
10.1.1.3
255.0.0.0
Gateway 10.1.1.1
first DNS get these from your ISP or 202.27.184.3(xtra)
second DNS as above or 202.27.184.5(xtra)

Notebook
10.1.1.4
255.0.0.0
Gateway 10.1.1.1
first DNS get these from your ISP or 202.27.184.3(xtra)
second DNS as above or 202.27.184.5(xtra)
Rob99 (151)
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