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| Thread ID: 69861 | 2006-06-14 12:06:00 | taking the pc to the net for the first time. | rob_on_guitar (4196) | Press F1 |
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| 463081 | 2006-06-15 02:12:00 | IMHO, don't bother with MS SP2 or do it later, or never . It can cause problems - see other threads here on PF1 . Zone Alarm, Spybot, AdAware, and an AV will do fine . That's just plain nuts! Get SP-2 before it's too late . The only people with troubles are the ones who wait too long and have a raging infection when they try to load SP-2 and they get snarffed! I just did a total burn-down today and re-installed XP-Pro and then added SP-2 before I allowed anything to get on the net . I had dnldd SpybotS&D and AdAware and SpywareBlaster and put the latest versions on cd and then also installed them before I went online . The only one that would not initiate was Spybot as it needs internet communication for it to figger what it needs to protect first . Stay far away from ZA . . I use MS's (here come the flames again!) firewall and then I am also behind a physical firewall with my router too . DO NOT even think McAfee or Norton's/Symantec . They just work like a load of Bandini! BTW: I got over 50 patches and updates from M$ . Get them fast as that 15 second window goes real fast! |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 463082 | 2006-06-15 06:15:00 | Yep ZA sucks balls, as stated for people that have tried nothing else. For every happy ZA user there's seems to be 10 that despise it and for good reason. | Battleneter (60) | ||
| 463083 | 2006-06-15 07:00:00 | Thanks for all your help, excellent stuff, Ive put on AVG with all available updates on it, the one Im thinking about next is the microsft updates, thats going to be a pain in the butt, I cant even remember how many 'crucial' updates I have recieved in the last 2 years on my other PCs. Anyway tonight is judgement night I will make 'er live at around 2000hrs. I feel like Im putting a mouse in a box of snakes... :nerd: |
rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
| 463084 | 2006-06-15 07:26:00 | Use one of your other computers to download Zone Alarm Firewall and install it before you go on, especially if you only have SP1 . Get it up to date on Windows update or by going here, you must have SP2 on before you can use this: . neowin . net/forum/index . php?showtopic=460888" target="_blank">www . neowin . net You need the Full version . I have been watching this thread with interest through the day . I bought a Toshiba laptop at the weekend, and so far have just installed software (AVG, Spybot, Ad-Aware, Zone Alarm) . I have downloaded the software suggested in your post (now excuse me for being thick) - do I just 'run' this on my laptop? Or do I do something else? I should add, the OS on the laptop is Windows XP Pro - the laptop is brand new - so I'm wondering if Windows comes with relatively recent updates already installed (or not!) . I still have to work out (with the help of one computer literate son, who, unfortunately doesn't live close, and who can only advise at length from a distance) . I'll be watching for pertinent posts relating to that . . . . Thanks :) |
R.M. (561) | ||
| 463085 | 2006-06-15 08:41:00 | I have downloaded the software suggested in your post (now excuse me for being thick) - do I just 'run' this on my laptop? Or do I do something else? Not entirely sure what you mean but if you have installed the downloaded software then they should be doing what they are supposed to be doing . Download the latest definitions for AVG and Spybot as soon as you connect to the internet . AVG should do this automatically but you will need to update Spybot manually . You then go to the Immunise tab and click on Immunise . Would suggest that you download and install SpywareBlaster and update that once online as well . Adaware is a tool for checking whether your PC has picked up any adware and spyware and run when you feel the need to do so . It must be updated first - click on Check for Updates within the program . |
FoxyMX (5) | ||
| 463086 | 2006-06-15 09:40:00 | A while since I installed this on my machine, you may have to install AutoPatcher as well. I have put on the last 4 updates as well, no problems. As long as you already have SP2, double click the downloaded file: AutoPatcher_XP_May06_ENU_Full which I presume is the one you have downloaded. and away you go, take some time to go through the available options and don't just choose everything, some of the powertools and setups like themes and other customisable options can be frivolous. You can always repeat when you feel more confident and change your choices. Also you can uninstall particular ones just as with the ones from MS but not where it is said it cannot be done, just as with MS. |
zqwerty (97) | ||
| 463087 | 2006-06-15 09:56:00 | Well the PC has been online for about an hour, AVG is bit of a life saver really, I went straight to the update section, its still downloading patches, updates, critical updates and the like, so far so good, I also installed spybot, so far 2 trojans stopped, but so far so good . The downloads just finished as i write so restart time, thanks all for your suggestions, all is well on the Rob front . :thumbs: |
rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
| 463088 | 2006-06-15 10:38:00 | Not entirely sure what you mean but if you have installed the downloaded software then they should be doing what they are supposed to be doing . I should have been clearer - I mean regarding the Windows XP autopatch files - do I just pop CD with those files in the DVD drive, and proceed, or is there something else I should do? Yes, as far as the other software is concerned - I would do that - that's what I do anyway on the desktop . I am used to downloading updates for Windows - they then install automatically . :confused: |
R.M. (561) | ||
| 463089 | 2006-06-15 11:43:00 | R.M. go here to get more understanding of what it is that you are going to do, go down to the Faq's: Q: What is AutoPatcher? A: AutoPatcher could be described as an offline Windows Update. AutoPatcher provides an interface to a large collection of updates, common applications and registry tweaks, that can be easily and quickly applied to your computer system. and so on. www.neowin.net |
zqwerty (97) | ||
| 463090 | 2006-06-15 15:57:00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I should add, the OS on the laptop is Windows XP Pro - the laptop is brand new - so I'm wondering if Windows comes with relatively recent updates already installed (or not!) . I still have to work out (with the help of one computer literate son, who, unfortunately doesn't live close, and who can only advise at length from a distance) . I'll be watching for pertinent posts relating to that . . . . Thanks :) Actually if the computer's been on the shelf in a box for more than a week, then it's outta date for updates and hotfixes already! The (?) second Tuesday of every month has major updates from M$, and they can get their tails twisted if they don't get on the ball and send out a crucial one before their own personal "window of opportunity" on said Tuesday . Since AVG gets it's own updates all the time and installs them too, it does not mean that it is running a scan . . . . just updating . Unless you assign it a time to do so, then it will just sit there protecting from assaults, but not diving in and looking at what you already have in the puter . Run it on a schedule as you do Spybot and make sure to turn on all the little tools in Spybot too, running the ADVANCED MODE; Teatimer and IE LOCK are also very important . Did you know that you and your son can interface on the Help area? You can invite him in to your puter from long distance and he can arrange things and download and run programs remotely . He, of course should have the same OPSYS as you . . . but I think (here come more flames for me thinking again) that it will even work cross-platforms, as long as they are not too different . Maybe someone else knows for sure if . . . . say . . . XP can confer with ME or 2000 . Well, maybe not ME, but likely it can with 2000 . |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
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