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Thread ID: 69926	2006-06-16 17:21:00	Now It's Knoppix!	SurferJoe46 (51)	Press F1

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463667	2006-06-16 17:21:00	I am running the liue version of Knoppix right now here on my Enermax/SOYO puter . . . it looks amazingly like Mepis, and I am sure I will do the full install . I will devote a 5 . 1g hdd on my eid/card to the install and make it dual-boot with XP-Pro . This puts 10 hdds on this system . . . gotta be careful of overloading the PSU . I tried to install Kubuntu on it, but GRUB failed to install 6 times . . . . . I sent a log to Kubuntu research/bug_reports and they will get back to me . . . but I think it looks like it might be better to install that version after I get some time in the Linux environment . For now, I think I'll sit on Kubuntu, and just run Knoppix here . Now I have two puters running Linux stuff on dual-boots . I like them both, but yes, there's a difference with the processor speeds . Even though I am running right now on a live-disc for Kubuntu, it is a lot faster on this Enermax/SOYO unit, as compared to the Dell/P III with the full install . I think I have to change the font defaults in the both of them though . . . this letters are 'way too small . BTW: the Dell while in XP cannot see the hdb where Mepis is installed . I wonder if that's gonna be the case here too on Kubuntu . My vid card here (NVIDIA GeForce FX5500 is running just fine, although there was a slight shift in the centering of the screen that was very easy to correct here . . . it'll probably be the other way when I boot XP too . So far, I am very happy with both of these Linux systems . . . they are intuitive unless the sound card here is a little confusing too . . . I will see later when I do the install . I recommend that all who have shied away from either of these distros (more L-Talk) to at least try the live-cd versions that can be downloaded from places on the net . You won't be sorry .	SurferJoe46 (51)
463668	2006-06-16 22:10:00	Hi SurferJoe46. I've just been given a Knoppix 5 cd,so something new to try out.	Neil McC (178)
463669	2006-06-16 23:05:00	SurferJoe said, BTW: the Dell while in XP cannot see the hdb where Mepis is installed. For reasons best known to themselves, M$ refuses to recognise the existence of Linux on other partitions - particularly if they are formatted in Ext 3 or ReiserFS.. However, Linux can quite happily see Windows partitions - in fact I was able to copy photos over into Linux before I went solo and dropped Windows altogether. By the way, has anyone else caught up with the fact that Xandros 4 is being released next Wednesday? Jim	Hhel (8073)
463670	2006-06-17 04:21:00	There is a programme (which I got from a magazine CD) which makes Linux partitions visible from W2K . It might work with XP too, I don't know . The simplest way is to make a FAT32 partition as a shared area . Both sides can write and read that with no problems .	Graham L (2)
463671	2006-06-17 06:13:00	Info noted and filed..tnx 73 rgds	SurferJoe46 (51)
463672	2006-06-17 19:42:00	Hi SurferJoe46 . I've just been given a Knoppix 5 cd,so something new to try out . I've decided that Knoppix Live! is not the program I like . It appears to be limited by my inspection, and since I don't want to have this puter (Enermax/SOYO) with no XP install as a dual-boot with it, I will perhaps dismiss it entirely . I am willing to mail my second copy of the Knoppix-Live! cd if anyone wants it . . . . . I only need one copy for archive files . Running it on live version is ok, but not what I want to do . Since I want to have the duality factor as a primary consideration, I hope my bug report to Kubuntu gets some assist . I like the way Kubuntu looks and feels as a "live", and want to install it as a dual-boot if I can get the GRUB problem straightened out . I have sent a bug report to Kubuntu . . . let's hope they respond soon . ;) I really want to run Kubuntu . . . . .	SurferJoe46 (51)
463673	2006-06-17 20:03:00	I missed the edit deadline . . so here it is all over again: Hi SurferJoe46 . I've just been given a Knoppix 5 cd,so something new to try out . I've decided that Knoppix Live! is not the program I like . It appears to be limited by my inspection, and since I don't want to have this puter (Enermax/SOYO) with no XP install as a dual-boot with it, I will perhaps dismiss it entirely . I am willing to mail my second copy of the Knoppix-Live! cd if anyone wants it . . . . . I only need one copy for archive files . Running it on live version is ok, but not what I want to do . Since I want to have the duality factor as a primary consideration, I hope my bug report to Kubuntu gets some assist . I like the way Kubuntu looks and feels as a "live", and want to install it as a dual-boot if I can get the GRUB problem straightened out . I have sent a bug report to Kubuntu . . . let's hope they respond soon . ;) I really want to run Kubuntu . . . . . If Jen or someone (Chill?) is looking on, I need to know what they think about my using the 5 . 1g hdd on an eide expansion card for the root of Kubuntu . . . is this the reason why I cannot get GRUB to install? I've removed all the RAID stuff and gone to JBODS, and even pulled a few hdds outta the tower too . I am running XP on root C drive, data on d and h, and I've set aside k for Linux/Kubuntu . K runs thru an ULTRA expansion card plugged into the mobo . I don't get any errors on the install until I hit the GRUB device . I also see during the boot to Kubuntu that there's no affirmation of PCMCIA or COMMON UNIX PRINT SYST PUPSD getting installed . They never get the blue check-mark telling me they are installed, in case that really means anything .	SurferJoe46 (51)
463674	2006-06-18 06:07:00	You have a complicated setup with your hard drives. Have you considered using a removable drive caddy for your master drives with the OSs on? That way, you don't actually have to dual boot at all and you will minimise your risk that one OS might cause havoc with the other. Did you select GRUB to install on hda? I presume Kubuntu can actually see the drive OK? What does it call it? Not to worry about your startup system messages. PCMCIA is for the laptop expansion cards and the support would be included by default. If you had a laptop it would of given an OK as it started the service daemon. Common Unix Print System (CUPS) is for printers. Have you got a printer attached? No idea what PUPSD is. The "D" indicates it is a daemon.	Jen (38)
463675	2006-06-18 15:45:00	You have a complicated setup with your hard drives . Have you considered using a removable drive caddy for your master drives with the OSs on? That way, you don't actually have to dual boot at all and you will minimise your risk that one OS might cause havoc with the other . Did you select GRUB to install on hda? I presume Kubuntu can actually see the drive OK? What does it call it? Not to worry about your startup system messages . PCMCIA is for the laptop expansion cards and the support would be included by default . If you had a laptop it would of given an OK as it started the service daemon . Common Unix Print System (CUPS) is for printers . Have you got a printer attached? No idea what PUPSD is . The "D" indicates it is a daemon . At part 6 of 6 during the installation GRUB failed to install 4 times now and then aborted the installation of the rest of KUBUNTU, dumping me back into XP . That's why I am wondering if the problem is accessing the ultra drive on k position . If Kubuntu is not able to work from that hdd position (K), as in thru the expansion card, then I may have to physically move some of the drives around . Right now I have K drive cleaned and ready for KUBUNTU install, but lost F thru I . In fact, KUBUNTU formatted the K drive for me after I had moved some files off it from XP . The boot splash sees all the drives ok, just not when I get to windows or even KNOPPIX/LIVE! :groan: I need to know what GRUB has to do . . . is it a directory to find KUBUNTU when I boot-up or is it the actual preliminary installer program for KUBUNTU? If I need to allow GRUB to install everything on Window's root drive, then I will, but I am afraid now of corrupting the whole C drive . C is a 40g root for XP and my security prgms right now . Do I need to allow KUBUNTU to install on the same drive as XP's root? Or is there just a small . exe-type prgm on the root drive that then toggles K? I told KUBUNTU to install on K, but for some unknown reason it died trying . . . . but I don't know what failed: writing to K or putting the pointer to K on C (root) drive . I have the following drives physically installed: C= 40g Root for XP, still accessable D= 200g data NTFS, still accessable E= 200g data NTFS, still accessable F= 200g data NTFS unseen now G= 200g data NTFS unseen now H= 200g data NTFS unseen now I= 200g data NTFS unseen now J= 200g Ultra data NTFS on EIDE card, still accessable K= 200g Ultra now formatted to FAT32 by KUBUNTU on EIDE card, empty Drives C thru K were on JBOD with J and K plugged onto the EIDE card installed on MOBO KUBUNTU sees all the drives ok and reassigns them letters hda thru hdi; XP has lost F thru I; boot/splash see them all	SurferJoe46 (51)
463676	2006-06-18 22:30:00	Joe, I hope you don't mind me saying so but I really do think you are playing with fire with your adventures into dual booting Linux with Windows . After getting my fingers burnt upgrading Fedora Core 1 to Core 2 and losing my Windows partition I vowed to never again play with dual booting and got a removable caddy system as Jen mentioned in her last post . That way both Linux and Windows can have their own hard drives and do not need to dual boot . I kept my data on a FAT 32 partition on a third, fixed hard drive so that both Linux and Windows could access those files . That system worked well and I had no fear of my Windows installation getting trashed .	FoxyMX (5)
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