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Thread ID: 70289	2006-06-28 03:51:00	M$ & WGA Hit The Fan Again:	SurferJoe46 (51)	Press F1

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466816	2006-06-30 06:48:00	is the killswitch already built into windows, or will it be released as a "critical" update that all these non-updaters won't recieve?	Greven (91)
466817	2006-06-30 08:59:00	is the killswitch already built into windows, or will it be released as a "critical" update that all these non-updaters won't recieve? It came with some update. Guaranteed.	pctek (84)
466818	2006-06-30 09:02:00	I didn't use to 'ghost' it as I have a lot of 'tweaked' stuff running... just seemed easier to start with a totally clean slate every time XP grinds to a halt (which seems to be regular as clockwork every 6 months no matter how much crap I get rid of). Likewise. It took me so long to install Windows, then uninstall all the bits I didn't want, tweak this and that, turn off this and that that I really don't want to have to do it all over every 6 months or even every year. Thats why I ghosted it. If I change something, like Nvidia to ATI for instance, I ghost it back to its original, alter the new thing then reghost again. Keeping the original still. One thing, you know System Restore slows it down immensely after a while.	pctek (84)
466819	2006-06-30 09:03:00	MY son says that those without SP-2 will be marked as troublemakers (his term, not M$'s) and they will be flagged for the dead man's switch then and the screen will go blank. Tell your son I bet him $100 absolutely nothing happens to my system. Ever.	pctek (84)
466820	2006-06-30 09:46:00	You make some good points, SurferJoe. But I wasn't talking about obviously-pirated keys from corporate volume licences (Used by employees who've left the company or "found" by others). That's so obviously illegal that who could blame M/S for de-activating them? It amounts to theft, which no company would put up with when the remedy's in their own hands. The "fact" I'd like to hear from M/S rather than anyone else is confirmation that they'll do that to all home computers without actual proof of purchase. As I said earlier - Yes, they might . But my objection relates to the way the story is fast becoming - they will . OK. It's a journalists' thing...	Laura (43)
466821	2006-06-30 17:09:00	OK, Laura . . . the WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, WHY . . . . . . let's see if we can fill in some of the blanks . . . . . WHO is obvious . . . M$ WHAT is also obviated by the fact that Vista is going to be harder to hack/pirate for many reasons, not to mention that the keys are not going to be in the hdd, but on the server and must be re-activated every time you log online . That's where the sniffer/spyware thing is . It's just plain old spyware . . . . . . no question . . . but users don't read their EULAS anyway . BTW: on EULAS . . . read the part that says that M$ can make changes to the agreement any time they want and it's up to the end user to find those changes; M$ will not send notice of EULA changes . WHEN gets a pretty obvious nod too . . . right now! And, the sniffing around in your system is going to become more frequent and much more in-depth . Who knows . . . M$ may decide to become all noble and inform other programs that you have a pirated version installed of their stuff too . . . . don't let that pass lightly . It would be exceptionally good PR to tell the press that this is a NOBLE THING, and that it is GOOD FOR THE POPULATION to make sure everybody complies and that they have M$ to thank for it too! WHERE is in your puter . WHY . . . now here's where we may part ways again . . . the "WHY" part is transparent to me . . . maybe to a few other conspiracy theorists too . . . but try to see it from "proof in the pudding" eyes . I do not trust Bill Gates; Most people do not trust Bill Gates . That being said . . let's see what the smoke is all about . What does he have to gain or lose with spying on systems checking where he ought not and skulking around our files and opsys's to see what's going on? Besides being noble and not wanting to collect cans and bottles for his meager existance and to make house payments, he needs to make sure the money flow is increasing in quantom jumps to satisfy his board members and shareholders . Making money is the first prerequisite of any business, and it must be "growed" by 22%-25% yearly to make ends meet . This is an axiom of monopolies and very large as well as small "mom-'n'-pop" establishments . Less growth is going backwards and the shareholders do not like that to happen . Mr . Bill has semi-retired from the day-to-day's in M$, even teaming up with Mr . Buffett as a co-antagonist for (again this word) "noble" reasons . Noble, my butt! Everything he does in a charitable vein is paid by the taxpayers! The US Govt will give the both of them tax credits which turns out to be actually underwriting the money they give away, and ultimately taking it from the middle class taxpayers . This is not so far offstream as you might think on the surface . To get tax credits . . first you have TO EARN THE MONEY! You cannot be so benevolent that you overspend your earnings to give it all away to charity . There is no "negative tax credits carry-over allowances" by IRS law for next tax year . It must be earned, given away and filed for in the same year that the charitable donations happens . The Gov't cannot owe you for a tax-credit that you overpaid two years ago, nor will they . Here comes the arithmetic: (remember, it's a MONEY thing!) If earnings are in stasis (quiet, not growing), then you have problems with 1) shareholders, ie, you aren't sheltering their earnings 2) the IRS, ie, you actually OWE money! 3) public relations; public trust is directly proportionate to good-guy status 4) customers ie, you are a schlock and I am going to Linux Take VISTA . . (an already elsewhere stated bag of snakes), and what do you see as the reason for the new pinch on pirates with XP using the 4 above mentioned factors? You've gotta prop up everybody involved in the old opsys (XP?) to get things running as you want them to for the following reason . Creditability in the marketplace is one . . . . would you buy a used car from someone called Bill Gates? . . . . . . . shareholders with pitchforks and torches, throwing rocks through your palace windows is another . Mr . Bill has stepped outta the auditorium as it were, to let someone else's head sit on the block for a while during the time of this turmoil . . . he will return (mark my words) after all the dust settles and the world (even in Bulgaria and Russian kodekiddies circles) is less enraged and when there is some return to normalcy again . (Read an article on "Frog Boiling 1-A" by Samuel Longhorn Clemens) I see all this tightning of the noose as a money grab; securing XP is step one (1) . . . . . VISTA is not safe until XP is cleaned-up and made safe from hacks . (Yeah! . . . dream on Mr . Bill!) Whatever achieves this end is acceptable, nay . . . REQUIRED by M$ right now and I do not think we have seen the tip of this iceberg . If nothing else, just click your ruby red shoes and repeat after Dorothy: "We aren't in Kansas any more!" (picture of a man trying to get the attention of the man inside the computer >> :badpc: )	SurferJoe46 (51)
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