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| Thread ID: 138826 | 2015-01-28 21:41:00 | One law for "them" one law for everyone else | wainuitech (129) | PC World Chat |
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| 1393234 | 2015-01-29 02:07:00 | Just because he can handle a ball doesn't mean he is intelligent. | gary67 (56) | ||
| 1393235 | 2015-01-29 11:07:00 | Today Judge Andree Wiltens described Li as having a "stellar" career that could eventually lead to place in the All Blacks. "A conviction against your name would have consequences in the sense that people who are involved in the recruitment of rugby players look with disdain on people with convictions, regardless of what they're for," he said. The judge also noted the wing's desire to follow in his father's footsteps and join the police post-rugby and said there was "inconclusive" evidence as to whether a discharge would still impede his recruitment Should have thought of that before having a beer then driving... |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1393236 | 2015-01-29 17:05:00 | If the kid was White the judge would have done him like a hot dinner. This country is getting sick, sooner or later we Whites are going to have to fight back. | prefect (6291) | ||
| 1393237 | 2015-01-29 23:47:00 | but wait theres more.... www.stuff.co.nz | ruup (1827) | ||
| 1393238 | 2015-01-30 00:53:00 | By way of observation over the years I have noticed that an awful lot of Inspectors, be they building, electrical, plumbing & drainage, or vehicle are failed tradesmen in their own profession. Now it seems the Judiciary have fallen into line and most of our Judges are failed Lawyers. I seem to be continuously reading about cases that have been overturned by a higher court which should be ringing alarm bells in parliament, but I don’t think there is anyone there. :groan: |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1393239 | 2015-01-30 03:29:00 | Yeah tough luck if you're a "prominent" kiwi, all the more reason for you to be careful to uphold your name to a higher standard so you don't affect your livelyhood. Otherwise you might have to just slum it with the rest of us... | Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1393240 | 2015-01-30 05:32:00 | In a related vein, I've been having a bit of a grizzle about another case I read recently. It was about some piece of 'compost' who had accumulated thousands of dollars of unpaid fines. The judge had decided this piece of compost could work off his fines by doing community service instead. Nothing terribly wrong with that, but then I took a closer look at the numbers. I can't quote the original figures, and can't be bothered to try to hunt out an example, but to summarise... The effective hourly rate of this guys community work came very close to my hourly rate. I earn a bit more. I had to get a university degree, and face numerous responsibilities and costs in order to continue with my work. These factors in my possibly conceited opinion mean I should be reasonably expected to get paid more than this guy gets for picking up litter or pulling up weeds. But then it struck me... for every $100 I earn I lose about $24 on tax. The piece of compost doesn't have to pay any tax on the work he does to pay his fines, so suddenly he's getting more financial return from pulling weeds than I do for my work. But wait. After I've paid tax on my $100, it then gets taxed again if I want to spend it, with GST. So $28 goes on PAYE, of the remaining $72 I stand to lose $9.40 on GST, so my $100 is now effectively only $62.60. And then I still have to meet my living expenses from all this, and pay any 'fines' I might incur from whats left as 'disposable dollars', so my $100 earned is now down to maybe $50 left with which to pay fines (not that I have any fines). But the piece of compost gets a full $100 of credit for every $100 work of labour he does, and he's probably still collecting a benefit from us at the same time, so it's still you and I paying for everything this piece of compost gets. So the law abiding, obedient individual pays about double in his/her labours to pay for such fines, while the excrement who can't/won't pay effectively gets let off with only sumbitting a fraction of the work, and probably works to a very shonky standard if/when he even bothers to turn up for the job. Suddenly it seems kinda stupid to be a good citizen. |
Paul.Cov (425) | ||
| 1393241 | 2015-01-30 05:34:00 | Excuse my adding mistakes. Login issues, so CBA wrt correcting it. | Paul.Cov (425) | ||
| 1393242 | 2015-01-30 07:41:00 | In a related vein, I've been having a bit of a grizzle about another case I read recently. It was about some piece of 'compost' who had accumulated thousands of dollars of unpaid fines. The judge had decided this piece of compost could work off his fines by doing community service instead. Nothing terribly wrong with that, but then I took a closer look at the numbers. I can't quote the original figures, and can't be bothered to try to hunt out an example, but to summarise... The effective hourly rate of this guys community work came very close to my hourly rate. I earn a bit more. I had to get a university degree, and face numerous responsibilities and costs in order to continue with my work. These factors in my possibly conceited opinion mean I should be reasonably expected to get paid more than this guy gets for picking up litter or pulling up weeds. But then it struck me... for every $100 I earn I lose about $24 on tax. The piece of compost doesn't have to pay any tax on the work he does to pay his fines, so suddenly he's getting more financial return from pulling weeds than I do for my work. But wait. After I've paid tax on my $100, it then gets taxed again if I want to spend it, with GST. So $28 goes on PAYE, of the remaining $72 I stand to lose $9.40 on GST, so my $100 is now effectively only $62.60. And then I still have to meet my living expenses from all this, and pay any 'fines' I might incur from whats left as 'disposable dollars', so my $100 earned is now down to maybe $50 left with which to pay fines (not that I have any fines). But the piece of compost gets a full $100 of credit for every $100 work of labour he does, and he's probably still collecting a benefit from us at the same time, so it's still you and I paying for everything this piece of compost gets. So the law abiding, obedient individual pays about double in his/her labours to pay for such fines, while the excrement who can't/won't pay effectively gets let off with only sumbitting a fraction of the work, and probably works to a very shonky standard if/when he even bothers to turn up for the job. Suddenly it seems kinda stupid to be a good citizen. HERE (tvnz.co.nz)’s some figures for your consideration Paul. Yeah, they’re a year or so old but none the less relevant. :illogical |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1393243 | 2015-01-30 19:12:00 | Well put Paul. The next stage in this saga will be when he gets pissed off with menial task which fail to stimulate his mind. So, he will not turn up for community service. Nothing will be done for a long time and finally when Mr Plod brings him before the judge again, he will get a slap on the wrist with a wet bus ticket and nothing will be done. Am I right, or just being cynical? Ken |
kenj (9738) | ||
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