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Thread ID: 70452 2006-07-04 05:49:00 Any Apple geeks out there? B.M. (505) Press F1
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468351 2006-07-05 03:24:00 Tried that Safari. Got a message that the system was loading without extensions but in the end no difference. I then noticed a little micro-switch on the Motherboard that said Reset. Hmm, I wonder if it resets the BIOS so I pushed it! Well, I think it must have because it’s now complaining about the time and date being wrong but hasn’t offered me a way to adjust them. Still no overall difference though. :rolleyes:
The message actually reads “Your Macintosh clock is set to a year before 1975 etc….”

They’re both beige desktops gibler. There’s a date of 1997 on the MB if that helps. :)
B.M. (505)
468352 2006-07-05 04:09:00 Tried that Safari. Got a message that the system was loading without extensions but in the end no difference. I then noticed a little micro-switch on the Motherboard that said Reset. Hmm, I wonder if it resets the BIOS so I pushed it! Well, I think it must have because it’s now complaining about the time and date being wrong but hasn’t offered me a way to adjust them. Still no overall difference though. :rolleyes:
The message actually reads “Your Macintosh clock is set to a year before 1975 etc….”

They’re both beige desktops gibler. There’s a date of 1997 on the MB if that helps. :)

That switch resets the PRAM on your mother board. The PRAM stores lots of critical information like hardware addresses for all of your installed cards and it also stores information such as the Date and Time.

When you tried loading without extensions did it come up with any error messages or flashing question marks or other indications.
Sounds as if you may need to try to boot from an OS 9 CD to try some repairs or even a reinstall.
Safari (3993)
468353 2006-07-05 04:39:00 No error messages, ? ! or the like. Just a wallpaper with what I guess are Apple Hieroglyphics on it.

No Icons either.

I wouldn't be surprised if something has been done to them prior to dumping.

Can you buy these disks on "Trade Me?"
B.M. (505)
468354 2006-07-05 05:01:00 No error messages, ? ! or the like . Just a wallpaper with what I guess are Apple Hieroglyphics on it .

No Icons either .

I wouldn't be surprised if something has been done to them prior to dumping .

Can you buy these disks on "Trade Me?"

If you have a wallpaper it sounds as if you have actually started up and your screen resolution may be out and is hiding the HDD icon and top menu .

Try pressing any number key once along the top of your keyboard, this will select the HDD icon .
Hold down the Apple Key and press letter O on keyboard
This may open the hard disk if the computer has actually started .
Safari (3993)
468355 2006-07-05 06:42:00 Woooooooh, we have lift off! Now for the major malfunction! :blush:

OK, doing as you suggested Safari brought up "FileMaker Pro 6 Folder" .

On the top of that are three Icons . Looking like an envelope – Bar Graph – Clock, in that order .

Crashing around in here only produces “Library FP5” could not be found . Please locate……………………etc .

I guess something is running but something is missing???? :rolleyes:

Character building stuff! :D
B.M. (505)
468356 2006-07-05 07:40:00 Woooooooh, we have lift off! Now for the major malfunction! :blush:

OK, doing as you suggested Safari brought up "FileMaker Pro 6 Folder" .

On the top of that are three Icons . Looking like an envelope – Bar Graph – Clock, in that order .

Crashing around in here only produces “Library FP5” could not be found . Please locate……………………etc .

I guess something is running but something is missing???? :rolleyes:

Character building stuff! :D

What is missing is you are not able to see all of the desktop, and menu probably because the screen resolution needs adjusting .
They are there, when you went to Apple key and O it was the Filemaker program that was selected and as a result opened .
Are you using a Mac Display or something else . Try and adjust the resolution so the complete desktop fits the screen and you will then be able to see a menu and the Hard disk icon .
Safari (3993)
468357 2006-07-05 09:11:00 The plot thickens . :annoyed:

I have no idea how to adjust the resolution, as I can’t right click on the desktop or get to control panel or whatever .

So, I swapped machines and the second one was exactly the same .

However, whilst thrashing around pushing everything in site a little square box popped up showing “Macintosh HD” & “Trash” .

Highlighting Macintosh HD and clicking OPEN produces FileMaker Pro 5 . 5 Folder – Library Files and System Folder . So far so good . Within System folder there are some 33 other folders starting with ActiveX controls and finishing with Voices .

Now for the crunch . There are no contents when you open any of these folders . Whether they’re hidden, I don’t know, but I suspect that someone had deleted everything except what they weren’t allowed to because they were in use and access was denied .

Just a theory though, but for your consideration anyway .

I really think we’re looking at a Format and reinstall but I guess we’re going to need some disks to do that . Might have to enlist the help of the “Computer Mafia” . :D
B.M. (505)
468358 2006-07-05 09:38:00 Heh, yeah they probably just tried to drag stuff into the trash, instead of doing it correctly (i.e. boot off a CD and use the disk utility). There is probably a Finder file still there (it wouldn't have been deleted as it would be "in use") and at that point the move to trash procedure would halt.

Find some full versions of OS 9 on CD.. or you can legally download all 19 disks here (download.info.apple.com) :D
gibler (49)
468359 2006-07-05 09:43:00 Does not sound good.
If you can access Mac HD and everything is normal you should be able to double click on it to get to System Folder
In System folder double click on Apple Menu Items
Double click on Control Panels
Double click on Monitors to get to resolution adjustment

If you can get control panels open try opening Extensions Manager and selecting OS 9 base set and restart.

Also in Mac HD is Utilities
If you can open it go to Disk First Aid and run that.

There are OS 9 Install CD's for sale on Trademe if you need one.
Safari (3993)
468360 2006-07-05 21:13:00 Looking at the 19 floppy’s as an option gibler, can I download them to normal preformatted floppys, and if so, can I expect the Apple to read them? :confused:

(You can see how little I know about these things) :blush:

I’ve just tried to get to the HDD again Safari but having no luck . God knows what key combination got me there previously .

Persevere, persevere, I must persevere, but have breakfast first . :D
B.M. (505)
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