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| Thread ID: 70483 | 2006-07-04 23:22:00 | Photoshop CS2 or camera problem? | Beemer (6956) | Press F1 |
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| 468680 | 2006-07-04 23:22:00 | I've recently bought a Nikon D200 and freely admit I'm still finding my way around it, and I also bought Photoshop CS2 as a step up from Elements. I've used earlier versions of Photoshop before without any trouble, but I had a bit of bother last week with some photos I'd taken and saved to my hard drive. From what I recall, I didn't do anything differently - I opened the photos from the memory card, resized them, etc and saved-as under different file names onto my hard drive. As far as I know, I hadn't changed any settings on the camera either, but a few days later when I went to open the saved photos, instead of a thumbnail, all that was showing was a white icon with the Photoshop logo on it, and when I tried opening them it said something about not being able to as it didn't know what application made the file. I used Rescue Pro to recover the deleted images off the memory card, but when I saved them to my hard drive, they were showing as RAW0001 etc whereas they usually show DCM0001 or something similar. I tried save-as and named them as I normally do (25.6.6.1 etc) but again it showed up as the icon rather than a thumbnail, and it wouldn't open. If I tried saving it as 'snow1' etc, it worked fine, and if I then renamed it from snow1 to 25.6.6.1 it was also fine! I looked at the manual and it talked about opening files in RAW but I couldn't figure out how that worked, and besides, they shouldn't have been RAW files (the camera is showing FINE, not RAW) in the first place. Unfortunately I don't really know anyone who uses the software so excuse me if it's a minor thing I've done wrong. I'd like to know how to avoid it happening in the future as I am in the habit of saving photos then erasing the disk because I've never before come across a problem like this with saved files. |
Beemer (6956) | ||
| 468681 | 2006-07-04 23:28:00 | Theres probably an easier way but.... how about saving the photos in their original file name to your hard drive and then use the batch convert feature in Photoshop to rename them to your folder of choice. |
lazydog (148) | ||
| 468682 | 2006-07-04 23:38:00 | I'll try that next time, lazydog - if it works, I don't care whether it's easier or not! The odd thing is, I took two shots of our cats and I could open one of them later but not the other one - both were taken at the same time and saved at the same time and the only difference between the two was I used a fullstop between the words in one of the file names. I wondered if it was something to do with putting fullstops in the file names - like in Word you can't use / in file names. I hunted in the manual for anything about this but couldn't find anything. | Beemer (6956) | ||
| 468683 | 2006-07-04 23:39:00 | What format and name are you saving/naming as when it goes wrong? You'll possibly find more people that can afford both D200 and CS2 on this forum forums.dpreview.com Have you updated CS2? |
PaulD (232) | ||
| 468684 | 2006-07-04 23:55:00 | Paul, I am saving in a date-type format as I do for the majority of my photos - if I take five shots today, they would be 5.7.6.1, 5.7.6.2 etc. Was that a dig about the price of my gear? (I am studying at present and got the academic version of Photoshop so it was significantly cheaper.) I would have thought many members of this forum would not only have this software and possibly a decent digital camera too, but perhaps they have spent it all on high tech computer equipment instead? :D |
Beemer (6956) | ||
| 468685 | 2006-07-05 00:11:00 | And yes, I did update it as soon as I installed it. On dial-up (I now have broadband, hallelujah) it took about nine hours... | Beemer (6956) | ||
| 468686 | 2006-07-05 00:12:00 | You haven't given the file names that a. worked b. didn't work. When you say "I took two shots of our cats and I could open one of them later but not the other one - both were taken at the same time and saved at the same time and the only difference between the two was I used a fullstop between the words in one of the file names." that doesn't seem like a "5.7.6.1.jpg, 5.7.6.1.psd etc" causing a problem. Was it something like fluffy.cat.psd being seen as a .cat file? The dig (more a gentle poke) was more that there are other friendly forums around especially for photo enthusiasts. |
PaulD (232) | ||
| 468687 | 2006-07-05 01:36:00 | when you rename a photo - do you remember to put back the extension - example - 0001.jpg - renamed as 0001? then windows don't know what it is. also - what you should be doing is - use a card reader & copy & past the photos into a folder. forget renaming them - what if you had 500 photos & forget resizing them - you'll lose quality. just get them all in the pc, then select the few you want to play with. 'fine' & 'raw' are 2 different things. raw is a format - just use jpg. fine is part of the quality setting. this camera is not one for the squeamish - go to a night class & learn the basics - it'll help. i teach night classes - beginners & advanced digital - so this advice is not from a know it all. i use dslrs for work & fun - nikons & canons. i had one of the first kodak/nkon dslrs - $40,000 a few years ago! | quarry (252) | ||
| 468688 | 2006-07-05 05:09:00 | Thanks everyone, the two photos referred to were called (don't laugh!) smooch147 and smooch.flash.chair - and both had the option to save as JPEG, which I did. I'm not exactly a novice, I've been a photographer for more than seven years, it's just finding my way around the menu of the D200 is a lot more advanced than the semi-pro digital I had prior to upgrading. I use a Nikon F5 film camera so I do have a few clues about it! I do play with most of my photos and a lot are taken for clients so that is why I usually download them off the memory card (using a card reader) and save the decent ones as I go, deleting the rest, as I then copy them to CD with an index to what each photo is of - eg Newtown New World manager... I have a couple of 1GB cards but I can fill them pretty quickly - each job is at least 100 photos and I often do two jobs in a day. I usually shoot in FINE rather than RAW as I don't need the extra quality for most print jobs. I'd love to go to night classes to learn more about the camera but I live in Levin... I went along to the local camera club last week and the average age was post-retirement and the majority of them are using film only and view digital as the work of the devil! (Slight exaggeration, but only just.) I was told by the vice-president, after telling her I used to belong to the Wellington Photographic Society, that I wouldn't get "that level of expertise here". Not much incentive to stick around. I posted it in this forum because I think of anything that goes wrong with things on my computer as a computer problem and as I've had oodles of help from many very switched on members here before, I tend to think of asking them for help before anyone else. Hell, they all came to my rescue when I couldn't get my computer case open to install the Ethernet card! |
Beemer (6956) | ||
| 468689 | 2006-07-05 05:17:00 | I have a Nikon D70 for a few yrs now . If you are to insert the CF mem card into a reader in your computer, Nikon Transfer should pop up asking if you would like to download these images onto your computer . For me I have Nikon View and Nikon Capture installed . I believe you only need NV for it to work as NC is not a free software . Regarding Photoshop I have CS 2 as well . When you open the file and then click save, it saves it as JPG if you used JPG in the camera and you can open it in IE browser . If you used RAW format and use PCS2 to open it, a RAW utility dialog box will pop up, if you click save button on the bottom of that it will save it as DNG format - digital negative . I presume for this it can be opened with PS only . If instead you shot RAW format and chose open at that dialog box it will open up in PS main window and if you choose save as, it will save it as JPG as default but you can choose others like TIF or RAW etc etc . You need to find out what format it is, what is the file extension it is saved as??? As for the best way to save a SLR file, its best to leave it as NEF raw or JPG from the condition it was at the camera . You never want to touch any graphic software becos that will be a conversion . You copy the file straight to the HDD and then burn a CD or DVD, that is now the original file as it came out of the camera . Then you can edit as you desire . . . . . If you did use NEF you will want to preserve that becos if you convert it, you will lose the ability to alter white balance, exposure etc etc . . . . For the prices, I get stuff like these oveseas :D If you want a photog bum reply, the D200 is a nice camera for the adv amateur, it is something of a poor man's D2x, its faster AF but not as good as the D2's and better viewfinder . They are useful if you do landscapes or portraits and need detail and large prints, but having said that people who had a D100 or D70 had been v happy printing up to A3 interpolated up . So I say the build, the AF and mirror lock up feature is the selling point and the viewfinder for some . I been planning some travel, what I have found now is for backpacking style a SLR is bulky, I have a F100 as well (film) but its heavy, its somewhat similar to the D200, the F100 is weighed at 780g excl . battery and film with a lens that I have comes to 1 . 2kg . I been using my bro's entry Canon film EOS body and it is so much lighter, if I had Canon lenses I would of took his body, its just 345g for that body . The more I have looked into photog, I get an appreciation of why that seasoned pple used the manual focus camera bodies and not to mention the expensive manual focus Leica rangefinders . . drool . . . . . . . . Pop in some professional slide film, use a professional lab then the camera becomes the least important variable with its with a great prime (non zoom) lens . While the Leica's are 550g they are much more compact so they are pocketable . So at the mo, I am thinking if to get a F55 film body or just take the F100 or skip them all and just take my Canon A510 :stare: Apart from that I have my backpack down to 6kg :D Well, the Leica film point and shoot is not bad with aperture priority and exposure compensation all at a 300g weight and a fixed 40mm lens at f . 2 . 4 (!) :blush: I am eyeing the Leica Rangefinde as well as I like a wide and a 2x lens as well (about a 70 or 90mm) but the prices even on the used market, but its said to be german handmade cameras :blush: N . |
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