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471062 2006-07-18 04:04:00 You can emulate the Mac OSs. You could run the new Mac OS versions made for "Intel 86" processors on a virtual "Intel" (or AMD) processor.

All Macintosh OSs up to the very latest have been compiled to run on non-"Intel 86" processors. The machine code is not the same.
Graham L (2)
471063 2006-07-18 04:11:00 Is the only reason because of the CPU? Because Mac OS needs uh... a mac cpu? (Yes, I admit, I know nothing about macs)

I read something about Intel's being able to run mac and windows. But I have AMD, so no matter.

Mac OS needs a Mac. While the latest ones do have Intel CPUs, they're still not generic PCs.

As mentioned above, it's sometimes possible to get Mac OS running, but it's not licensed for use on non-Apple hardware.
Nermal (7077)
471064 2006-07-18 04:38:00 The virtual machine is a seperate machine . If you went on my pc and formatted C, it wouldn't format C on your pc .

I must've taken my stupid pills tonight . . . :D I still have a bad time trying to understand just where the v/m lives .

A yes or no on the following questions will help:


Is the v/m c drive really on the root (C) disk?

Do I need to have the cd in as a "live" cd to make it (98SE) run?

Is the v/m not like grub or vice-versa?

Will I be able to "see" the v/m in My Computer?



What acctually gets formatted . . . a virtual c drive or the real c-drive?




As you can see . . I am still very lost here by the terminologies and not wanting to repeat the blunder by grub for KUBUNTU again . I just got all that repaired .
SurferJoe46 (51)
471065 2006-07-18 04:51:00 Hi mejobloggs. Re: The virtual machine is a seperate machine. If you went on my pc and formatted C, it wouldn't format C on your pc. What? I'm trying really hard to follow this thread.... but what? Scouse (83)
471066 2006-07-18 05:05:00 Installed 98se no problems even managed to install a Novell Client and login to a Novell network.
Installing ubuntu now let you know how it goes


ubuntu took ages to install the xserver didnt like being run virtually could be a distro thing though.
One thing I have noticed THIS program is ram hungry, first time Ive seen a paging file error meassage on this machine.

OH well xp install next
beama (111)
471067 2006-07-18 06:18:00 Ok, someone else explain, heh.

All my knowledge comes from my 5 minutes of using it. Didn't even manage to finish installing ubuntu cause it took so long.

I thought memory useage for this was suprisingly low.

I think when you install ubuntu, you have to choose the 'use safe graphics' boot option to make it work properly. After you have booted and isntalled, you can then install your nvidia drivers or whatever.

I want to get Safari on one of these somehow.
mejobloggs (264)
471068 2006-07-18 07:11:00 For an unofficial list of working O/Ss see here

http://vpc . visualwin . com/




Is the v/m c drive really on the root (C) disk?

Do I need to have the cd in as a "live" cd to make it (98SE) run?

Is the v/m not like grub or vice-versa?

Will I be able to "see" the v/m in My Computer?





What virtual PC does is that it creates a vitual computer, it pretends to be a brand new virginal computer that you can install software on, to install the software it needs too create a virtual harddrive on your machine which is just a FILE ( . vhd file) on your normal harddrive
When Virtual PC goes to format "C:\" it is only formatting the contents of that vhd FILE, NOT your real C:\, it should have no effect on your machine

Virtual PC only acts on that . VHD file, all its activities are done on that file

You won't be able to see the V/M in "my computer", but you will be able to see the . VHD file that contains it, (if you use VMware you actually write ti the virtual harddrive from your normal real computer)

this is also a good explanation

. robertmoir . co . uk/win/vpcfaq/VPCFAQ6-InstallingGuestOS . html" target="_blank">www . robertmoir . co . uk





I found installing Ubuntu under vmware slightly longer than normal but it seemed to run well, mind you that was installing it in vmware player using the workround that was out 4-5 months ago
Morgenmuffel (187)
471069 2006-07-18 07:28:00 I want to get Safari on one of these somehow.
Assuming you mean the Mac OSX browser

Then this might be of interest

pearpc.sourceforge.net

It isn't very advanced but some of the screenshots look promising
Morgenmuffel (187)
471070 2006-07-19 03:53:00 One advantage of virtual machines is the ability to take snapshots or copies of the state of the hard drive, perform a potentially dangerous operation (such as starting Internet Explorer), and have to option to revert to the snapshot if problems occur. TGoddard (7263)
471071 2006-07-19 03:57:00 People might also like to look at Xen. On Intel processors with VT support (including the new dual core ones) it can run all x86 operating systems including Windows at near native speed. AMD will be releasing their equivalent towards the end of the year (Xen will support that too). Without hardware supported full virtualisation, Xen can only run Linux and some BSD variants with a kernel patch (this comes with some distros such as SUSE). TGoddard (7263)
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