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Thread ID: 71502	2006-08-07 18:20:00	Graphics & Motherboard Advice: Help please! :)	Suil (10931)	Press F1

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476915	2006-08-07 18:20:00	Hey, I'm looking to upgrade my Graphics card. I'm running on 512MB RAM (Although I'm likely to upgrade that shortly also) and a www.shopping.com 3_USB2_0_MATX motherboard. The graphics card I've decided to get is a www.nvidia.com . I am not certain I have met some of the requirements. They are; -Being able to cope with 250 Watts (On the Motherboard?) -Intel Pentium 3 Processor -VGA or DVI-I for the monitor. How can I check those three? How difficult is it to install a Graphics Card alone? Could you suggest somewhere to order items from, in the UK? Thank you. :)	Suil (10931)
476916	2006-08-07 23:34:00	Hi, Looking at the specs of that motherboard you have decided on, it has an integrated video card when you buy it. And seeing as it only has one AGP slot that integrated video card will probably be using it, so then you will be stuck with a video card you can't use :horrified And even if that isn't the case the video card you are buying works on 8x AGP and that motherboard only supports 4x AGP. Your proccesor will be fine. But i recommend getting a different motherboard, and depending on what type of games you want to be playing maybe a different video card. :2cents:	Fishy (10540)
476917	2006-08-08 00:22:00	Hey, I'm looking to upgrade my Graphics card. I'm running on 512MB RAM (Although I'm likely to upgrade that shortly also) and a www.shopping.com 3_USB2_0_MATX motherboard. The graphics card I've decided to get is a www.nvidia.com . I am not certain I have met some of the requirements. They are; -Being able to cope with 250 Watts (On the Motherboard?) -Intel Pentium 3 Processor -VGA or DVI-I for the monitor. What are you upgrading for?? It all depends on what you use the PC for. I'd say its too old and its time for a whole new PC (not including monitor, KB and mouse) 250w is the power supply NOT your motherboard. Its low. But more important than number of watts is the amps on the 12v and the QUALITY.	pctek (84)
476918	2006-08-08 00:56:00	Hi, Looking at the specs of that motherboard you have decided on, it has an integrated video card when you buy it. And seeing as it only has one AGP slot that integrated video card will probably be using it, so then you will be stuck with a video card you can't use :horrified And even if that isn't the case the video card you are buying works on 8x AGP and that motherboard only supports 4x AGP. Your proccesor will be fine. But i recommend getting a different motherboard, and depending on what type of games you want to be playing maybe a different video card. :2cents:I suggest you do some more reading up on your computer hardware. A motherboard with AGP 4x will quite happily support an AGP 8x graphics card. Hence why most cards are rated AGP 4x,8x. Though admittedly you won't utilise the cards power fully. (I know this as I have a Ti4200 8x on a 4x motherboard). To the original thread starter, it all depends on what kind of games you want to play and at what setting. If you want to do some serious gaming, you SHOULD upgrade the motherboard AND the card (to something that supports PCI-e)	Myth (110)
476919	2006-08-08 02:36:00	I suggest you do some more reading up on your computer hardware. A motherboard with AGP 4x will quite happily support an AGP 8x graphics card. I knew that it's just that it won't utilise it's full potential. So it would be better for him/her to have a motherboard that does utilise it's potential, that was all i was saying.	Fishy (10540)
476920	2006-08-08 11:07:00	My problem is that I'm working on a tight budget - £200 or so (I'm sure about conversation rates). Therefore upgrading the Motherboard and such is a bit of a pain, especially since I'd be doing it alone, and have little experience (The person whom previously helped retired, and my local PC Store wishes to give me a 1 month waiting time and a £45 charge.) I picked out the bits since they're cheap and cheerful; I'm quite desperate to upgrade my RAM as things are pretty slow on 512 RAM, and I'm looking for a Graphics card that'll run games (Nothing flashy.) I've bought a few games lately (Fable/Rise and Fall) that can't run on my current Geforce 4 MX. Thank you for the replies. :)	Suil (10931)
476921	2006-08-08 19:52:00	Welcome to the club of not having enough cash. I'm saving up for mine though. I am still concerned about the fact that it only has one AGP slot and that integrated video card will probably be using it, so then you will be stuck with a video card you can't use. Because this actually happened to me. I ran a system diagnostic tool and it said it had a 4x agp slot with a video card in it, so i bought a agp card only to open up my computer and notice that because it is integrated i could not use that card. Luckily i had not taken out of the box yet and was able to take it back. What do you mean by "local PC Store wishes to give me a 1 month waiting time and a £45 charge."? What are they charging you for? (sorry if it's obvious i can't figure it out)	Fishy (10540)
476922	2006-08-08 20:46:00	Fishy, No the whole idea of intergrated is that it is ON the motherboard. your problem probably came because the intergrated video was not turned off and you were running off that but had an actual GFX card in there OR infact didn't have intergrated, what said you had intergrated? If the motherboard has a physical AGP slot then you can take the card out... What makes you say you couldn't take it out? I know for a fact that if you have intergrated GFX you can put an AGP card in there, as I have done this with two of the machines here BTW all AGP motherboards that I am aware of one have one AGP slot, this is different to PCI-E	The_End_Of_Reality (334)
476923	2006-08-09 00:31:00	I bought a couple of games recently, and my current graphics card lacked the shaders to play them, so I'm only really looking for a small upgrade. I think I'm in the financially painful situation of needing to shell out for a whole new system soon, though. :) Thank you again for all the replies.	Suil (10931)
476924	2006-08-09 00:53:00	I knew that it's just that it won't utilise it's full potential. So it would be better for him/her to have a motherboard that does utilise it's potential, that was all i was saying. Oh boy, both wrong, a 6200 is hardly going to saturate an 4 x AGP bus let alone the 8 x AGP bus. An integrated solution DOES not use an AGP port at all, so you can disable on board video and upgrade, however the 6200 would be equivilant to the integrated solution so no poit getting that card. Try a 6600 plain. I would disgard the mobo and chip for something a bit newer if it was me.	SolMiester (139)
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