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Thread ID: 71628	2006-08-11 07:49:00	How well will vista run on a fx5200?	Greven (91)	Press F1

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477770	2006-08-11 07:49:00	I've always thought of a 5200 as a useless card, but it is in the list of supported video cards for Vista. Does that mean Vista will run OK with the eye candy enabled on a middle of the road computer with a fx5200 video card, or will it just barely run? I've just bought a computer for my grandparents (sempron 2500, 512mb DDR400 ram), and I'm wondering what kind of video card to get them since they will probably ask me about vista once it starts getting hyped through the mainstream media.	Greven (91)
477771	2006-08-11 08:08:00	So where did you end up getting the PC? I'd ignore Vista, what do they need it for? Unless gaming is suddenly going to be a requirement why bother? XP will be fine for their use. But no, a 5200 won't do all the eye candy. Vista will run with that stuff off though. In fact any of todays graphics cards aren't suitable because of the DRM requirements that are going to be built into Vista.	pctek (84)
477772	2006-08-11 08:17:00	In fact any of todays graphics cards aren't suitable because of the DRM requirements that are going to be built into Vista. What about the nVidia 7xxx cards that say "built for vista"?	Fishy (10540)
477773	2006-08-11 10:10:00	So where did you end up getting the PC? I'd ignore Vista, what do they need it for? Unless gaming is suddenly going to be a requirement why bother? XP will be fine for their use. But no, a 5200 won't do all the eye candy. Vista will run with that stuff off though. In fact any of todays graphics cards aren't suitable because of the DRM requirements that are going to be built into Vista. I ended up buying off trademe. Your friend's computer probably would have been a better deal, but due to delays in getting his new motherboard, he wouldn't be able to sell his old computer untill near the end of the month. Vista would probably be worse for gaming because it is more bloated than XP. I played round with the beta a bit on a new computer (but with onboard graphics) & everything looks really good, but even a game of solataire is horrible without a decent video card. Is there a list anywhere of what level of eye candy each card is capable of? since there is a list of vista capable cards, they must be able to do something more than my trusty old Ti4200.	Greven (91)
477774	2006-08-11 10:11:00	What about the nVidia 7xxx cards that say "built for vista"? Theres two things: One - capability: blogs.zdnet.com Two - DRM: www.firingsquad.com Quoted: "HDCP stands for High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection and is an Intel-initiated program that was developed with Silicon Image. This content protection system is mandatory for high-definition playback of HD-DVD or Blu-Ray discs. If you want to watch movies at 1980x1080, your system will need to support HDCP. If you don’t have HDCP support, you’ll only get a quarter of the resolution. Although ATI has had “HDCP support” in their GPUs since the Radeon 8500, and NVIDIA has had “HDCP support” in their GPUs since the GeForce FX5700, it turns out that things are more complicated -- just because the GPU itself supports HDCP doesn’t mean that the graphics card can output a DVI/HDCP compliant stream. There needs to be additional support at the board level, which includes licensing the HDCP decoding keys from the Digital Content Protection, LLC (a spin-off corporation within the walls of Intel). After some investigation, Brandon and I determined that there is no shipping retail add-in board with HDCP decoding keys. Simply put, none of the AGP or PCI-E graphics cards that you can buy today support HDCP."	pctek (84)
477775	2006-08-11 10:16:00	I ended up buying off trademe. Your friend's computer probably would have been a better deal, but due to delays in getting his new motherboard, he wouldn't be able to sell his old computer untill near the end of the month. Vista would probably be worse for gaming because it is more bloated than XP. I played round with the beta a bit on a new computer (but with onboard graphics) & everything looks really good, but even a game of solataire is horrible without a decent video card. Is there a list anywhere of what level of eye candy each card is capable of? since there is a list of vista capable cards, they must be able to do something more than my trusty old Ti4200. Yeah, I know about the delays, he got the new CPU off me, they sold out (I warned him), and he had to wait. Then , the boards delayed now. Totally ages to wait. And of course he needs to build the new one before losing the old one. Oh well. Vista will be worse for everything but we gamers are going to be stuck with it. Because of DirectX 10. Its Vista only. Initially I guess games will have the option of running DX9 but wait for it..... Its a nasty conspiracy if you ask me. I loathe the whole idea of being forced into an O/S. But if I want the latest games....... :badpc: List of cards, not really, I was just reading about this somewhere yesterday and they were saying it will shut off all or part of the Aero stuff if your card can't handle it. Personally I would turn it off myself anyway. I want an O/S to be basic and do what its meant to - act as an access between me and whatever I want to run. I want my games to look pretty not Window$.	pctek (84)
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