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1406452 2015-08-13 02:30:00 Now that I have installed Windows 10,presumably Microsoft have my computers details and has activated Windows ,can I now reinstall Windows 7 and use it until I want to reinstall 10 in 18 months or so or would I have to pay for it? ruup (1827)
1406453 2015-08-13 03:23:00 yes that's fine. You can even rollback to Windows 7, you won't have to reinstall it.

curious to know why you can't use it now though.
nmercer (3899)
1406454 2015-08-13 03:39:00 Hi,nmercer,no offense but it is still buggy and it looks like a dead fish washed up on the shore,IMHO .Will wait until there is a suitable skin or theme.Cheers ruup (1827)
1406455 2015-08-13 03:40:00 sure. you will be able to do a lot more with themes and colours in the November release. nmercer (3899)
1406456 2015-08-13 04:47:00 sure. you will be able to do a lot more with themes and colours in the November release.:clap:clap:clap

Did MS fire the Graphic designers and hire someone who isn't colour blind :D
wainuitech (129)
1406457 2015-08-13 12:22:00 Seems like a good place to add this article from the other day, I know it's been talked about in many other threads, but hey - the voices of experts saying these things seem to be getting louder and louder!



It’s been a couple of weeks since the launch of Windows 10 and the numerous voices raising concerns over privacy and how it uses personal data are not getting any quieter.

Many of the concerns stem from the fact that if users follow the software’s recommendations and stick to default settings while installing their free upgrade, they are effectively giving Microsoft permission to directly monitor pretty much everything they do on their machines. This includes offline activity such as editing files stored locally in private folders on your computer, as well as everything you do online.

It doesn’t stop there, though. As well as monitoring and storing records of this activity, people installing the upgrade are - perhaps unknowingly if like many they have become complacent about reading privacy policies – giving Microsoft permission to share it with unspecified “partners”, for unspecified reasons.

Although the terms and conditions are incredibly vague about why they are doing this, it’s become clear there are several reasons. These include collecting personal data for targeted advertising purposes (by Microsoft or their partners) as well as to gain a deeper understanding of how their products are being put to use by their millions of users.


Even the contents of your emails and documents stored in private, offline folders can be subject to scrutiny and “disclosure” (to unspecified parties), according to the wording of Microsoft’s privacy policies. Of course, it’s quickly become apparent that this is why Microsoft, which has traditionally charged users around $100 to upgrade to the latest version of their OS has, in an uncharacteristic act of generosity, given it away for free. $100 multiplied by the 14 million who updated in the first day alone is clearly a lot of revenue for them to pass up on. However, while the strategical soundness of some of Microsoft’s recent actions have been questioned, this was far from a stupid move on their part. And there’s no such thing as a free lunch. Of course Microsoft want payment for using their services, only this time they are happy to take it in personal data rather than cash

Full article here (www.linkedin.com)
bevy121 (117)
1406458 2015-08-13 22:22:00 Thanks bevy121 you have just tipped the scale for me....I am currently putting Windows 7 back on my laptop...by the time I have turned off all the spy stuff from Microsoft I was just left with a bland piece of nothing and so with no real advantages there are no compelling reasons to keep this piece of malware.I'll keep 7 until it is no longer supported and then probably go over to the 'dark side' and install Linux. ruup (1827)
1406459 2015-08-13 22:52:00 Full article here ( . linkedin . com/pulse/windows-10-microsofts-big-data-grabbing-spying-os-bernard-marr" target="_blank">www . linkedin . com)
"Even the contents of your emails and documents stored in private, offline folders can be subject to scrutiny and “disclosure” (to unspecified parties), according to the wording of Microsoft’s privacy policies . Of course, it’s quickly become apparent that this is why Microsoft, which has traditionally charged users around $100 to upgrade to the latest version of their OS has, in an uncharacteristic act of generosity, given it away for free . $100 multiplied by the 14 million who updated in the first day alone is clearly a lot of revenue for them to pass up on . However, while the strategical soundness of some of Microsoft’s recent actions have been questioned, this was far from a stupid move on their part . And there’s no such thing as a free lunch . Of course Microsoft want payment for using their services, only this time they are happy to take it in personal data rather than cash "


Ok, please . Lets differentiate opinion & conspiracy theories from "facts" .
Complete tinfoil hat stuff .
Why no such outrage at Android, have you even looked at what you agree to when you install Android apps, or use google or gmail or yahoo/xtra email ?
It wasnt MS who drove around NZ (and the world) in White vans slurping up as much wifi data as possible .
1101 (13337)
1406460 2015-08-14 01:27:00 tinfoil hat stuff? really?

...whatever
bevy121 (117)
1406461 2015-08-14 05:23:00 Like 1101 says, this is a general feature of our digital life now. All these terms of service, on the face of it, sound horrendous.

Just had a new mobile phone establish itself with all contacts, calendar and apps so this data was stored 'upstairs'.

Not prepared to switch everything off as yet, though.
linw (53)
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