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Thread ID: 140023	2015-08-08 00:59:00	Windows 10 Question for nmercer	wainuitech (129)	Press F1

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1406142	2015-08-08 00:59:00	Nathan, at what exact point / Stage during the upgrade does windows 10 actually register the motherboard on Microsoft servers during a upgrade ? The reason for asking is we all know that once W10 is installed you can reinstall from fresh. At the moment I got 4 failed W10 upgrades computers in my workshop, all stopped at various stages & they were connected to the internet at the time, it would be good to be able to simply save their data using a bootable CD like Microsoft Diagnostics and Recovery Toolset, linux or slave the drive and then do a fresh install of W10 instead of having to put back the original OS first then try to upgrade again.But I dont know at what point the computer is registered on the servers.	wainuitech (129)
1406143	2015-08-08 06:53:00	Not sure sorry Will see if I can find out.	nmercer (3899)
1406144	2015-08-08 07:20:00	Not sure sorry Will see if I can find out.Thankyou. :thumbs: I have tried myself, but the one time the failed install has been close to finishing and by that time its already registered, had rebooted to the desktop then crashed in specular fashion repeatably . Other times I've not been bombarded with PC's that the owners have to have fixed NOW !! ;) And of course once its registered already it will automatically install from fresh after that. And apart from knowing someone who has access to MS Activation servers and can locate & delete a single entry out of the millions available is impossible. Just a public footnote: I'm not against W10, its like any new OS, still got LOTS of bugs. The problem is its being forced out to users and causing many problems and being advertised as the best MS have produced. You very rarely hear about good points, only bad.	wainuitech (129)
1406145	2015-08-08 22:31:00	... and being advertised as the best MS have produced. Whilst not without it's flaws, I would have to say it probably is the best they've produced! :D	Chilling_Silence (9)
1406146	2015-08-09 00:04:00	Its always the same. When XP came out everyone rubbished it and preferred 98. Then we realized that XP was modeled on NT4 which was an excellent OS. XP proved to be reliable and a lot of people still use it. Along came Vista, disaster until Vista SP2 which was very reliable, my wife used it for 4 years with very few problems. Windows 7 was more successful from the start as people had become used to Vista, you might say it was Vista SP3. We had the same performance with W8 which became acceptable with W8.1 Same thing will happen with W10 when it becomes W10.1 The real issues are that it has been released to the retail market while still in BETA. The p2p downloading is also an issue. If you have a PC there is no reason to change until this is all sorted, tablets & phones are something else.	mzee (3324)
1406147	2015-08-09 00:26:00	Same thing will happen with W10 when it becomes W10.1 You really don't read posts properly do you? THERE WILL NOT BE A WINDOWS 10.1. There will be a continuous series of updates, some minor, some major. After some time the OS will probably look and work somewhat differently, but it will still be "Windows 10".	Tony (4941)
1406148	2015-08-09 00:59:00	You really don't read posts properly do you? THERE WILL NOT BE A WINDOWS 10.1. There will be a continuous series of updates, some minor, some major. After some time the OS will probably look and work somewhat differently, but it will still be "Windows 10".There more than likely will be changes in numbering, but most wont see them unless you run winver The Build numbers are what will change. The version released on the 29th July was build 10240. If you look on the build list site, its currently up to 10512.1000 https://buildfeed.net/ These are the newer builds that are being developed.	wainuitech (129)
1406149	2015-08-09 01:55:00	It's splitting hairs and is also not really worth pursuing, but a new build number is not a new version number in the sense that mzee was meaning is it? What is the point of that buildfeed site? Is it just for obsessives who can't bear to not have the very latest, or is there a more rational rationale? (:))	Tony (4941)
1406150	2015-08-09 02:23:00	It's splitting hairs and is also not really worth pursuing, but a new build number is not a new version number in the sense that mzee was meaning is it? What is the point of that buildfeed site? Is it just for obsessives who can't bear to not have the very latest, or is there a more rational rationale? (:)) What its basically showing is what MS are doing in the way of Builds . For example, the one released to the public ( what MS are pushing out) was build 10 . 0 . 10240 . 16413 . th1 . 150801-1635 The current one they are working on is 10 . 0 . 10512 . 1000 . th2_apps . 150802-1815 The TH2,could be taken as a Upgrade version . Sooner or later there will be a new build on the insider program to test . As Nathan has pointed out elsewhere, I think it was there will be new feature releases several times a year . So going by that there should be a rather large-ish upgrade being pushed out with the new features . But yep, its more or less for people who are wanting to keep track of what's going on .	wainuitech (129)
1406151	2015-08-09 02:32:00	What its basically showing is what MS are doing in the way of Builds. ... But yep, its more or less for people who are wanting to keep track of what's going on. I'm obviously not obsessive enough - fortunately. My reaction on the few occasions I've looked at the site has been a big yawn. I could see a bit more relevance before the July 29 release, but now?	Tony (4941)
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