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Thread ID: 139131	2015-03-15 14:19:00	PC GAMING ADVISE ????	AppleFan (17097)	PC World Chat

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1396449	2015-03-15 14:19:00	Hi im not a big fan of pc gaming , i like consoles . Im here to get some advise on pc gaming i might build in future because i want to try out some simulator games like flight simulator , xplane , train simulator , euro truck simulator , farm simulator . I want to know - 1. Can i5 run this fine or i7 is the best ? 2. Do i need more than 3Ghz ???? 3. How much ram ???? 4. What brand motherboard is best ??? 5. What brand Graphics Card ????? 6. Shall i buy or build it myself ???? Let me know any other info if you have for me ???? Thanks	AppleFan (17097)
1396450	2015-03-15 17:19:00	Why bother if you like consoles then. PC gaming is expensive and requires upgrades all the time. Best brands for GPU and MB - Gigabyte and ASUS. For simulators, depends on the hardware requirements really, I know MSFS needed a high end CPU though - unlike most games where GPU is the most importnat. Best to go with i7. Ram, as much as you can afford. In order of importance. GPU CPU RAM PSU Better to go to someone who knows what they are doing - Computer Lounge know all about decent gaming PCs and have excellent after sales service. Be prepared to spend lots and lots though - unlike consoles.	pctek (84)
1396451	2015-03-15 18:51:00	I know some serious flight simulator players spend an absolute fortune on very high end hardware in order to run the game smoothly but I suspect if you dial down the settings and play on a single screen it's not quite so needed. That one game aside though here's my thoughts. 1. i5 is just as good as i7 in almost all current games, however for future games that may change. i5 is still a good choice or now though. 2. the faster the better in theory, any desktop i5 is near enough the same for gaming in practice 3. 8Gb is enough for most gamers and has yet to fail me but I will be getting 16Gb next time I build a PC to stay ahead of typical requirements 4. Asus, Gigabyte, Asrock take your pick 5. Asus, Gigabyte, possibly EVGA 6. Have your parts supplier build it and you will have no warranty issues if it goes wrong, PB tech and computerlounge both build to order. 7. Just to be that guy - Advice has a "c" you "Advise" someone by giving them "Advice" Honestly though, as much as I prefer the PC over a console myself it will cost you a lot of money and has a 1. 5 - 3 year lifespan for playing new games depending on hardware choices you make. After that it becomes ancient by PC standards. Consoles don't have quite the same issue and are much cheaper so bear that in mind	dugimodo (138)
1396452	2015-03-15 20:02:00	To Quote PCTek -- Best brands for GPU and MB - Gigabyte and ASUS. As its already been mentioned, it will cost more the higher the specs. Just building a Gaming Machine for my son, hes paying for it, he looked up the Components from various places, gave me a list, then I went to my suppliers and made it better, doubled the RAM, changed a few items, and of course hes only paying Wholesale (cost price) Still over 2K.	wainuitech (129)
1396453	2015-03-15 23:05:00	Price ranges approximately depending on hardware choices; Basic mid-range gamer - i5, 8Gb RAM, GTX960 or better $1500 ~ $2K ish High end Gamer - i7, 16GB RAM GTX 980 or R9 290X $2.5K ~ $5K ish Very high end gamer - Haswell-E 6 core i7, 32GB Quad channel DDR4 RAM, 2 or 3 way SLI or X-Fire with GTX 980s or R9 290Xs $$ if you have to ask you can't afford it PC gaming is great fun but an expensive hobby, my PC is worth about $3k all up and I made a compromise or 3 at that.	dugimodo (138)
1396454	2015-03-16 08:09:00	"Very high end gamer" is still excessive and no games require that kind of power, it's more for being lazy and multitasking or hosting other things like virtualized servers *whilst* you game (Not really ideal - Kinda pointless running it all-in-one from a cost perspective). I game at 4K for a bunch of games, on a single R9 290X. I have 16GB of RAM but not a single game has ever gone over 8GB, even with some 2-dozen Chrome tabs open and a bunch of other stuff while gaming. I also game *while* I run a Plex server, again my i7 4771 @ 3.5Ghz has not been the bottleneck even though it's also transcoding up to two video streams at once while I game. Spend it all on the GPU once you've reached that stage, or on a nice 4K monitor. Given 8GB of RAM is more than sufficient, there's little point going for 32GB over 16GB when it's money better spent elsewhere. Same for CPU, unless you're going to be *streaming* your games as you play them in a 4K Resolution, something like my 3.5Ghz i7 is still absolute overkill, even playing the likes of Assassins Creed Unity, FarCry 4 etc	Chilling_Silence (9)
1396455	2015-03-16 19:22:00	"Very high end gamer" is still excessive and no games require that kind of power Except MSFS, it did need high end....although you could skimp on things like case, MB and such....	pctek (84)
1396456	2015-03-16 19:29:00	I'm not disagreeing but was trying to illustrate the costs more than anything. When you get to the point of spending the kind of money it would cost for the "very high end" part of my post you are into serious gaming enthuiast with money to burn territory and it becomes more about what you want and can afford than what is "required" These guys game on 4K screens, or 3 x Full HD etc and in some cases do play one of those rare games that can use 6 cores. I agree about the RAM but it seems most people building PC's at that end of the scale want more than is required, maybe they perceive more is better, maybe it's bragging rights, maybe they do serious work when not gaming. When you have already spent cash on a 6 core CPU and 3 way SLI you likely wouldn't skimp on a cheap 8GB of RAM when everything else is already overkill. My PC falls into the high end range I posted but I only have 8GB of RAM myself, anyone spending more than that should know what they want. I think building a PC now I would put 16GB in though as it would hopefully last you a few years and RAM requirements tend to increase. I was going to buy a 4K monitor but my concern is my rig won't play the latest games well at that resolution and I'm not confident it'll scale well if I have to lower the resolution. I'm looking for a good WQHD monitor as a compromise but crazily enough you can get 4k cheaper at least in the models I've found locally.	dugimodo (138)
1396457	2015-03-17 05:39:00	Thanks for all the advise by all of you . I think if i build it , i will have an i7 processor over 3Ghz and i will put in 16GB of Ram . In future i may put in more Ram if required .	AppleFan (17097)
1396458	2015-03-18 00:12:00	Who needs 16gb ram? Maybe if you are you doing some sort of virtualisation or working with massive databases, otherwise no. Almost every game around is still 32bit, so they can't use 4gb. Any ram unused is wasted ram. Don't be a chump, don't get more than 8gb.	Cato (6936)
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