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Thread ID: 139066	2015-03-05 21:25:00	Customs seeks powers to disclose passwords	SKT174 (1319)	PC World Chat

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1395761	2015-03-05 21:25:00	Customs are seeking the power to require people to disclose passwords to their electronic devices when entering New Zealand. Failing to do so without reasonable excuse should be an offence punishable with three months prison, it has suggested. goo.gl I don't see how this is going to work, we're not living in the 80's , everything can be store in clouds, be it google drive, dropbox, even a remote server at overseas with encrypted data can be VPN in , if people wants to carry illegal information into the country, I don't think they'll be stupid to put in on a physical device.	SKT174 (1319)
1395762	2015-03-05 21:58:00	It is merely another gov't body assuming their interests are more important than the rights of those who employ them. If the GCSB et al can do it, why not customs? The little people surely do not matter. Naturally, it would be important that the rights of the customs dept to use or misuse any information gained in whatsoever manner they deem expedient be protected.	R2x1 (4628)
1395763	2015-03-05 22:09:00	Its a bit stupid, & will only work on stupid people. the simple answer will allways be " I forgot the password " . How can they prove otherwise. So a crim bring his laptop into NZ. Customs say password please The Crim mastermind will think, 3 months max for not disclosing password, or 6 years if I do & they see all my files . What about (say) docs that dont have a .doc extention. Are customs going to spend weeks going through EVERY file on the laptop in case it had the info on it. Are they going to open .dll files, in case they are renamed doc files ? What about files under another users Windows a/c. So easy to say, well they are some one elses files & I never had access. Could also say, that file isnt encrypted, its corrupted. Customs will also have to be aware of EVERY possible encryption method & every possible encryption software.	1101 (13337)
1395764	2015-03-05 22:27:00	the simple answer will allways be " I forgot the password " . How can they prove otherwise . Wonder what they would do if someone said the password is getf*cked :lol: And it was ;) Telling the truth But on the serious side, as 1101 points out theres so many ways to get around it . What about cloud access, some places wont allow you to log on from certain places . A simple example is sometimes If I try to access my live account from somewhere far enough away from home it has to have a secondary code sent, my work email is fine, but hell I cant remember the password for that to access the domain web mail :waughh: Some Admins dont allow people to have access to certain locations /files and the admin sure as hell isn't going to give out a password .	wainuitech (129)
1395765	2015-03-05 22:41:00	Customs, making every sensible traveler a criminal since 2015	Nick G (16709)
1395766	2015-03-05 22:51:00	Wonder if they can seize your device if you can't remember the password? Would you be breaching the terms & conditions on some sites and services by disclosing your password to another person?	SKT174 (1319)
1395767	2015-03-05 23:44:00	I think it's stupid also, what is it they think they will find? If they want the power it should be conditional. Customs should be required to have a reasonable justification for requesting a password just as they expect a reasonable justification for not supplying it. It could so easily be abused otherwise. What if it's a celebrity who says "no, I have confidential contacts and private intimate pictures on my phone" how good would that law look in the face of the publicity that would cause. This could be a nightmare for customs if they really thought about it and I seriously doubt there's any actual benefit to it.	dugimodo (138)
1395768	2015-03-05 23:46:00	Welcome to 1984,get used to it.	ruup (1827)
1395769	2015-03-06 00:43:00	Its a bit stupid, & will only work on stupid people . the simple answer will allways be " I forgot the password " . How can they prove otherwise . . Like they'd care . . . . they'd think you were being a smartass and hack it then . Or rip the drive out of it . If they are allowed access by law, then they will get it one way or another . Perhaps just have the person arrested for obstruction . Yes, you can have dodgy stuff elsewhere - they're not paid to search elsewhere - there are other organisations that do that all day . They want to check what you have on you . So? Although I'd probably try just logging in for them first rather than handing it out . . . . the idea is so they can take a look - that works . That is, if I had a password . I don't so anyone could view my files if they felt the need .	pctek (84)
1395770	2015-03-06 03:08:00	I use a couple of really hard to guess ones on my laptop. It would take them years to work them out. So I would just say I forgot it and I would be safe!! By the way, they are "password" "123456" and "qwerty" See. Safe as houses. Ken :)	kenj (9738)
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