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Thread ID: 139043	2015-03-01 02:54:00	Help me choose a new(ish) car	Tony (4941)	PC World Chat

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1395457	2015-03-23 23:34:00	So if no-one should ever buy a new Skoda (or any brand of car, as mentioned by others), how are second-hand ones sourced? Please, feel free to buy a new Skoda ;) Some dont mind taking a 30-50% resale value hit after a year . Thats a bummer if you decide you need/want to sell it. Used Skoda's are probably ex company cars or used imports from Eurpoe (just a guess) . Many used cars in NZ are used imports (I bet most of the Jap cars are) . NZ is not Japan or Germany . They have laws/regulations designed to encourage new car sales , they send us their used cars	1101 (13337)
1395458	2015-03-23 23:51:00	Please, feel free to buy a new Skoda ;) Some dont mind taking a 30-50% resale value hit after a year . Thats a bummer if you decide you need/want to sell it. Used Skoda's are probably ex company cars or used imports from Eurpoe (just a guess) ."Eurpoe" - is that in Asia or Africa? :) The issue of brand new cars losing a ton of value immediately is only an issue if you are planning to turn it over fairly quickly. I bought my Lancer new in 1999 and by now the value after a few months is totally irrelevant. Having said that there is some sense in buying a near-new car because of that very fact. Although there is something nice about sitting in a brand new car with the odometer reading 6 kms (or something). My brother was doing IT contracting for BMW in the UK in the late nineties. The staff were allowed to take home new BMWs at the weekend, on the understanding that they would drive at least a set number of miles (100??) as a final road test. I have a photo of my aged father sitting in the driving seat of a new Z3 looking pleased as punch. My brother would have made sure the ignition keys were safely in his pocket though. :)	Tony (4941)
1395459	2015-03-23 23:51:00	Please, feel free to buy a new Skoda ;) Some dont mind taking a 30-50% resale value hit after a year . Thats a bummer if you decide you need/want to sell it. Used Skoda's are probably ex company cars or used imports from Eurpoe (just a guess) . Many used cars in NZ are used imports (I bet most of the Jap cars are) . NZ is not Japan or Germany . They have laws/regulations designed to encourage new car sales , they send us their used cars It's not just Skodas that lose that kind of value after 12 months. I just traded SWMBO's 10 month old Mazda 2 ('cos she didn't like the damn colour!!!!) and got a new one (with a pre-approved colour!). In the process, we lost $12K in value on a $27K (when new, and with extras), 10 month old car that had done 7000km. Luckily, I will get a tax break on that loss, but it still hurt - and Mazda had said they would 'look after' us. Yeah, right! My 11 year old Honda CRV (original price $42K) was traded for $7K. Over the time frame, not a bad rate of depreciation - compared to the Mazda 2. The lesson learned here was that you keep a vehicle for a number of years before selling it - the depreciation slows down as the vehicle gets older. I also just sold a 1995 Mazda 121 privately, which we had bought for $12K some 15 years ago, for $1150. Again, not a bad depreciation rate over 15 years - although I wouldn't recommend a 15 year term of ownership for most cars! The other lesson I learned is "Don't trust a Mazda dealer".	johcar (6283)
1395460	2015-03-24 21:19:00	Which begs the question, why buy a new car when you can get a 1-2 year old car $10K cheaper ? Makes no sense to me unless its a expensive car & you have the cash to spare. Then again, my car is 24 years old so I'm definitely biased .	1101 (13337)
1395461	2015-03-24 21:22:00	Technology and safety features...	johcar (6283)
1395462	2015-03-24 21:36:00	Technology and safety features...That is probably the only really valid reason, unless you are hooked on that new car smell, and I believe you can get that in a spray can these days.	Tony (4941)
1395463	2015-03-25 22:32:00	Something we haven't talked about much here is the diesel option. It seems to me there are a lot of advantages to modern diesels - what do people think? The main thing that puts me off is the whole Road User Charges thing - that seems to me a total PITA. I wonder how many people forget to pay, and how many get caught?	Tony (4941)
1395464	2015-03-25 22:43:00	It is a very good time to own a diesel, especially a modern one, and it's only going to get better with the rego dropping significantly in a few months. I occasionally forget to get RUC for a month or two never been caught yet, easy way to do it is service intervals - so buy RUC for 10,000km or whatever your service interval is, then do the lot at once. Only downside is getting greasy hands when filling up.	wratterus (105)
1395465	2015-03-25 22:44:00	Something we haven't talked about much here is the diesel option. It seems to me there are a lot of advantages to modern diesels - what do people think? The main thing that puts me off is the whole Road User Charges thing - that seems to me a total PITA. I wonder how many people forget to pay, and how many get caught? Putting aside RUC for diesel vehicle (which I agree is a PITA system), as I understand it, diesels are better for anyone doing high annual mileage, rather than the average motorist doing 10-20K kilometres a year. That said, today's diesels are more economical and reliable than they used to be even ten years ago, and the maintenance periods don't need to be as close together as they used to be either. But they're still expensive (and still more critical) to maintain than the petrol equivalent.	johcar (6283)
1395466	2015-03-25 22:50:00	It is a very good time to own a diesel, especially a modern one, and it's only going to get better with the rego dropping significantly in a few months. I occasionally forget to get RUC for a month or two never been caught yet, easy way to do it is service intervals - so buy RUC for 10,000km or whatever your service interval is, then do the lot at once. Only downside is getting greasy hands when filling up.Of course that implies you are good at remembering the services as well... I assume you can overlap the RUC updates, i.e. you could schedule the purchase of a new lot every 2 months say, and get more even if you haven't run out.	Tony (4941)
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