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Thread ID: 139111	2015-03-12 20:27:00	Ak council plastic bag ban ??	1101 (13337)	PC World Chat

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1396245	2015-03-13 09:00:00	Whilst I accept that paper and cardboard are not as pollution free as one may like to think, that was all we had at one time before the age of plastic, plastic bags and plastic packaging. We lived quite happily then without what we didn't know about. Maybe it was the same here as in the UK, we had galvanised dustbins which the council workmen emptied. We also had "pig bins" around the streets which food and vege scraps were put in to supplement pig feed.. No such thing as putting out plastic rubbish sacks. Everyone had shopping bags, with one reserved for veges. When we went to the greengrocer to get spuds they were weighed out and tipped into the bottom of the vege bag, dirt and all, no washed spuds in plastic bags in those days, carrots and other stuff on top, apples etc in paper bags. Food for thought, what about those shops that don't allow shopping bags and ask that they be depositd at the front or wherever?	Terry Porritt (14)
1396246	2015-03-13 18:59:00	..in the UK, we had galvanised dustbins which the council workmen emptied. We also had "pig bins" around the streets which food and vege scraps were put in to supplement pig feed.. No such thing as putting out plastic rubbish sacks. Everyone had shopping bags, with one reserved for veges. When we went to the greengrocer to get spuds they were weighed out and tipped into the bottom of the vege bag, dirt and all, no washed spuds in plastic bags in those days, carrots and other stuff on top, apples etc in paper bags. You still can do that to a point. We compost food scraps. We go to the vege shop for those things we don't grow - and I never get a plastic bag. Supermarkets...well you can buy those cloth bags and use them, I get the plastic ones as they are used for my bin. So a certain amount of plastic does go out in the rubbish.....not to mention the council plastic rubbish bag we Waitakere people are still having to use not Auckland is a supercity. We rarely put out the bottle bin though - maybe once every few months when it finally has enough beer mix tins in it.	pctek (84)
1396247	2015-03-14 01:14:00	Banning paperboard packaging could potentially result in 1000's losing jobs literally from the ground up - Nursuries...Forestry...Pulp and Paper...Packaging Suppliers/Manufacturer's...Major NZ produce/horticulture Exporters. Then dozens of suppliers and services...Railways..Trucking - Inks...Adhesives..Machinery/Engineering. I Been involved (as head QA/Lab researcher for CHH) in NZ paperboard and plastic packaging at various levels and seen the effects of mills semi closing down due to packaging compettion, lack of demand, environmental issues, etc. Plastic resins are generally imported, of which much less industries, resources, services, and people are utilized in it's final production in NZ.	kahawai chaser (3545)
1396248	2015-03-15 01:52:00	I think most people find the plastic supermarket bags very useful. I certainly find many good uses for mine and would be VERY annoyed if they tried to ban them. Don't they have better things to worry about? There are many more items that need to be looked at first. Eg the huge solid plastic covers that come on many items these days - eg razor blades, batteries, small accessories. I bet they take hundreds of years to decompose. What about catching people that litter and fine them! Like they do in Singapore. What about a National monthly clean up day like they do in Rwanda?	Digby (677)
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