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480248 2006-08-30 07:54:00 Many broadband ADSL routers have Network Address Translation (NAT) enabled which provides a similar level of protection (one-way inwards) to the Windows firewall. godfather (25)
480249 2006-08-30 08:16:00 A firewall is a necessity on any computer. If you use the internet AT ALL you need a firewall, you say you don't need/have a firewall at all, but later on you say you use Windows firewall. You're contradicting yourself.

~Matt :-)

I thought it was obvious that I was referring to an "addon" firewall.

Too many people believe all the bull put out by self styled computer experts who may have an interest in selling you something.

As I said I have never had a virus or hacker or any other nasty infect my computer. I take no special precautions. I don't consider it necessary to rush out and buy some dubious program that allegedly blocks all the evil lurking out there.
JJJJJ (528)
480250 2006-08-30 08:30:00 Presently I have the XP firewall enabled, but for a long time I had none, the NAT router looked after me just fine.

I have never run without an updated AV program however.

And for the record, I have never had an infection, either viral or malware. And yes, I do scans to check....
godfather (25)
480251 2006-08-30 10:54:00 I thought it was obvious that I was referring to an "addon" firewall.

Too many people believe all the bull put out by self styled computer experts who may have an interest in selling you something.

As I said I have never had a virus or hacker or any other nasty infect my computer. I take no special precautions. I don't consider it necessary to rush out and buy some dubious program that allegedly blocks all the evil lurking out there.
You've been lucky then. As far as "allegedly" blocking the evils - there's no black magic involved here. Pretty simple principles involved, and it sure beats leaving your computer open to the possibilities. ZoneAlarm is free - no selling necessary. Just try it, and count the number of incoming attempts it blocks in an evening. Why risk it? :)
MyHost (8982)
480252 2006-08-30 11:12:00 count the number of incoming attempts it blocks in an evening. Why risk it? :)

That would be 0 for people with a NAT router (that isn't set up to forward absolutely everything like the dlinks Xtra supplies are)
Greven (91)
480253 2006-08-30 11:20:00 That would be 0 for people with a NAT router (that isn't set up to forward absolutely everything like the dlinks Xtra supplies are)That's all well and good, but I don't think JJJJJ mentioned anything about routers. The implication seemed to be that firewall software is some kind of snake oil sent forth to extort every last penny from the innocent masses. That's what I couldn't quite fathom :) MyHost (8982)
480254 2006-08-30 19:24:00 Firewalls, in the main are just a joke to keep idle hands busy . Ane I'm not talking about the windows one . At least it does no harm .

My experiences with fire walls:

Zone alarm . Tried it for a couple of days . All it did was tell me something or other needed acess to the internet .

Belkin . Built into my first Router . It refused to let me send or receive e-mail . And it's default setting was on . So had to disable it everytime I turned computer on . result: 1 Belkin router used as practice for long distance throwing competition .

Asus Firewall . (Built into new motherboard) . Would not let me use floppy drive . Would not permit winzip 10 to work properly .

So as I have said . Firewalls are rubbish . They cause more problems than they fix .

So if I do pick up any of the evil things some people worry about . A simple format and re-install will fix it . And it won't take as long as the time I have wasted on firewalls .
JJJJJ (528)
480255 2006-08-30 21:39:00 Firewalls, in the main are just a joke to keep idle hands busy . Ane I'm not talking about the windows one . At least it does no harm .

My experiences with fire walls:

Zone alarm . Tried it for a couple of days . All it did was tell me something or other needed access to the internet .

Belkin . Built into my first Router . It refused to let me send or receive e-mail . And it's default setting was on . So had to disable it every time I turned computer on . result: 1 Belkin router used as practise for long distance throwing competition .

Asus Firewall . (Built into new motherboard) . Would not let me use floppy drive . Would not permit winzip 10 to work properly .

So as I have said . Firewalls are rubbish . They cause more problems than they fix .

So if I do pick up any of the evil things some people worry about . A simple format and re-install will fix it . And it won't take as long as the time I have wasted on firewalls .
Well said JJ .
I have recently installed nod32 and find it brilliant . Whenever I do a scan with adaware and spybot,they show nothing .
With avg I used to be continually cleaning nasties .
Cicero (40)
480256 2006-08-30 21:53:00 errrrrrrrrr..........what can I say to the two previous posts but .............LOL drcspy (146)
480257 2006-08-30 21:59:00 Don't rubbish third-party firewalls just because you are one of the few who don't actually need one, Jack . Your Billion modem/router has built-in NAT which, along with the Windows firewall, would take care of all the incoming threats and your NOD32 would take care of anything dodgy that tried installing itself on your system . There is the slight possibility of something getting past NOD32 that a third-party firewall would alert you to but the chances of that happening is pretty remote in your case .

For most of the rest of us a third-party firewall is essential protection . Just consider yourself lucky . ;)
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