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Thread ID: 72392 2006-09-11 08:19:00 Graphics Card Issue horizon981 (11124) Press F1
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483955 2006-09-11 08:19:00 First off, im a complete rookie to graphics card, so pardon if something is not clear.
My system is Intel PIV(3.06 GHZ) 1024 MB RAM and Intel 865G graphics chipset with 96 MB RAM. These are a few issues with this card:
When I installed Prince of Persia warrior within, it said my card didn't support Pixel Shader 1.1, I still ran it and things were fine. From time to time, I have seen games complaining. Besides, I don't think 96 MB is considered good for a hobbyist gamer. (I may be wrong though.)

What is the status of this card in today's world?

It has an AGI 8X slot. Most games list their requirements in terms of Nvidia this or that or ATI Radeon this or that.
Can I fix a non-Intel card in that AGI slot? (Of course I'll get a professional to install it.)

Recently Titan Quest has refused to run my system, and it really boils my blood..

What is the best solution for my problems? I want an AGP card that is not too highly priced and has a good value for money.

By the way, I remember having read somewhere that it is possible to disablr this Intel on-board card. Can it be done?

Thanks a lot in advance.

Plz help me out.
horizon981 (11124)
483956 2006-09-11 08:53:00 Welcome

Integrated graphics (865G chip) and games do not generally mix well.

The card has no "status" as its not actually a card, its just a graphics chip embedded in the motherboard, designed for non-gaming activities.

Usually instering an AGP card will disable the integrated graphics, but that may depend on your motherboard. We do not know what that is yet however.
godfather (25)
483957 2006-09-11 10:07:00 Your a brave man trying to game on intergrated graphics, epescially as old as the 865G chipset. Titan Quest is a very demanding game, and thus requires some decent hardware, realistically you'd want to consider something midrange such as the 6600GT. But if your budget is limited and you dont game alot something like a 6200 or 7300 might be sufficent. Pete O'Neil (6584)
483958 2006-09-11 11:38:00 If you want to play Titan Quest, check out this comparison chart www23.tomshardware.com
It has the frames per second for most graphics cards. It doesn't go back as far as the Radeon 9600's or 9800's though, which I suspect may play this game OK. According to the chart, the 6200 will give six frames per second, which basically translates to - unplayable. The 7300 doesn't fare much better, with the GT coming in at 17fps, but do extensive searching making sure you include the game title in your search. Hope this helps.
vader (11117)
483959 2006-09-11 11:45:00 you probably need to spend $200 before you can enjoy Titan Quest. developer (4447)
483960 2006-09-11 12:16:00 My motherboard model is P4i65GV. Now, will inserting an AGP card disable the integrated graphics card?

Well, my sole aim is not to enjoy Titan Quest. I want to enjoy other modern games too. If I'll have to upgrade every 4 months because of a new game, shouldn't I buy a console instead? One time investment and lots of stability.
Wat say?
horizon981 (11124)
483961 2006-09-11 12:44:00 The Toms Hardware Link has other benchmarks too. It just happened to have the game you mentioned and I knew this, as I too, have been trying to figure out why it wouldn't play on my system. The thing is, if you buy a decent card, it will last a good while before needing an upgrade, as many games are built/written to work with them. I tend to wait til the older technology gets cheap, but lately the newer stuff seems to be selling for similar prices, so perhaps the console would be a good idea. :confused:

I just bought a second-hand 6800 ultra w/out heatsink, so am waiting on my HSF to be delivered. I'm hoping it will last a wee while before needing an upgrade. I'm not even sure it will run T-Quest properly!:eek: Oh well, fingers crossed.
vader (11117)
483962 2006-09-11 21:01:00 \I want to enjoy other modern games too . If I'll have to upgrade every 4 months because of a new game, shouldn't I buy a console instead?

Consoles change too .

And its not that bad . It depends what sort of card you start with as to how long it will "last" for gaming . Start with something budget and very low-ranked in the Toms charts and yeah, 4 months might be likely . Start at least mid-range I say and you can get a good year or two out of it .
pctek (84)
483963 2006-09-12 01:16:00 Ive been running a 9800PRO for about 2.5yrs and its only been in the last 6months things have started to become unplayable. As pctek says investing in a good mid-high range card should easily get you 18months out of it.

6800GS's can be had for about $400 and should be capable of playing most modern games for a while.
Pete O'Neil (6584)
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