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Thread ID: 72896	2006-09-30 00:50:00	My graphics card hangs during 3D games	dlewis (11225)	Press F1

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488214	2006-10-08 10:40:00	i just want to make 2 points.... the core 2 cpus smoke everything else on the market. expesialy if you over clock them :) . and i would have spent some more money on the graphics card of you were into gamming.	dconline (9267)
488215	2006-10-08 16:57:00	Have you got any proof that its the dual core CPU thats responsible for your slow downs? It could be numerous other factors that are causing the problem. Seeing as the 4200+ is 200MHz faster per core than the 3200+ it should be expected that it would outperform the 3200+ irrelevant of the extra core. I'd wager a lazy fiver that its something else causing your problems. You may well be right. But hard disk has been deep formatted. XP has been re-jnstalled.All updates, re-downloaded. fs9 installed. All addons etc., re-downloaded. Nothing else of any sort installed. No a/v or firewall. Ram. 2 gigs. Tested overnight with Memtest . Graphics. 7900GT with 256 megs. Is excellent. Computer is faultless with all other programs. (with lesser requirements) Yet nearly every time I reach a stage of game where a larger demand of resources is required, I get dumped from the game. Instantly, without warning. No message. Points: I did not have this problem with a 3200+ cpu. Numerous others do not have this problem with single core cpu's Anyway I have bought a 4000+ and will try it when it arrives. If you can suggest anything else I will try it.	JJJJJ (528)
488216	2006-10-08 18:58:00	You may well be right . But hard disk has been deep formatted . XP has been re-jnstalled . All updates, re-downloaded . fs9 installed . All addons etc . , re-downloaded . Nothing else of any sort installed . No a/v or firewall . Ram . 2 gigs . Tested overnight with Memtest . Graphics . 7900GT with 256 megs . Is excellent . Computer is faultless with all other programs . (with lesser requirements) Yet nearly every time I reach a stage of game where a larger demand of resources is required, I get dumped from the game . Instantly, without warning . No message . Points: I did not have this problem with a 3200+ cpu . Numerous others do not have this problem with single core cpu's But as I said, my friend doesn't have this problem with his 4200+ x2 and FS9 . He hasn't got SP2 and he never downloaded any updates at all . He is running a firewall but not AV resident . He has a 7800GT and 1Gb Ram so less than your PC . I bet it is something to do with WIndows .	pctek (84)
488217	2006-10-08 23:27:00	I disagree with you. There's plenty wrong with dual core cpu's. Unless you get some virtualy non existent software that uses the whole cpu your programs will run slower and stutter. I have a program that is shown as using oner 90% of resources on a 4200+ cpu. On a single core 3200+ it used about 60%. And I strongly suspect it can cause stutter and hesitation in graphic cards. Just because something is new it is not necessarialy better. An SLI set up is another example of newer not being better. I don't dispute that when software is written that can make use of the new hardware you will see an improvement. Jack, you need to seriously reconsider posting on this forum, as you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Do some research, read hardware review sites & stop spreading FUD.. Thank-you	SolMiester (139)
488218	2006-10-09 01:21:00	Jack, you need to seriously reconsider posting on this forum, as you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Do some research, read hardware review sites & stop spreading FUD.. Thank-you Well I concede I'm no self styled computer expert, but I know what my computer is doing or not doing. And I know that a dual core cpu is absolutely useless on a program not designed for it. And if you'd been dumped as many time as I have with the thing you would agree with me.	JJJJJ (528)
488219	2006-10-09 01:27:00	Well I concede I'm no self styled computer expert, but I know what my computer is doing or not doing. And I know that a dual core cpu is absolutely useless on a program not designed for it. And if you'd been dumped as many time as I have with the thing you would agree with me. Well, dumps to desktop are not a new senario, pc's have been doing that since day one. You probably have some stabilty issues. Games are just about the most stressful applications you can run on a pc, so if its going to dump, it will when gaming. It has nothing to do with dual cores. In fact, even if the game doesnt use both cores, while the game or any other SINGLE thread application is running the other core can be left for the O/S chores.	SolMiester (139)
488220	2006-10-09 03:12:00	If you expect to not get dumped, you are seriously in for a shock... everything will crash sometime or another, some do it often and the same cause, others don't. But I would also like to see some hard evidence that it is the dual core that is causeing your problems... have you tried to set the affinity for FS9 to only one core? the might solve the problem... IF it is caused by the DC CPU. And what SM says is true as well, the games will generally use all of one CPU/core (at this stage with non multithreaded games) and on a single core background processes are using a part of the CPU, but in DC CPUs the game can run on one core while the backgrounds apps/services etc run on the other core, My X2 sits at about ~51-55% while gaming, the ~1-5% that is using the other core would have to share with a single core CPU so the game will only get ~99-95% of the CPU instead of 100% of a core	The_End_Of_Reality (334)
488221	2006-10-09 20:10:00	Jack, you need to seriously reconsider posting on this forum, as you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Do some research, read hardware review sites & stop spreading FUD.. Thank-you Read this and tell me an Athlon 64 4000+ is not better than x2 4200+ www.xbitlabs.com	JJJJJ (528)
488222	2006-10-09 20:24:00	Read this and tell me an Athlon 64 4000+ is not better than x2 4200+ www.xbitlabs.com Jack, the single core is clocked higher than the DC, it will run some app's quicker, I dont need to read a benchmark to know that. I cant remember the clock speeds of either cpu off hand, however, there is no reason why the DC cant be clocked to the same speeds as the 4000+. Which do you think would be the better chip then?. Why dont we concentrate on the dump/instabilty of your o/s build rather than cpu's. I would 1st check the FS9 forum to see if their are compatiblitly issues with any of your hardware, then your mobo manyfacturers forum for RAM compatibilty/optimun timings, then which driver versions you have installed. PS: I'm no self styled technican by the way, not sure if its a shot at me. I have been working IT industry since 95!	SolMiester (139)
488223	2006-10-09 23:33:00	The 4000+ is 200MHz faster than the X2... you are not comparing apples with apples the better test would be a 4600+or 4800+ (depending on the cache of the 4000+) as they will then have the same clock speed and amount of cache, then it is apples with apples. And the link you provided only compares the CPUs in singlethreaded apps... And still does not prove how it is the X2 that is causing your problems...	The_End_Of_Reality (334)
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