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| Thread ID: 72962 | 2006-10-02 17:18:00 | Vista; No thanks, | JJJJJ (528) | Press F1 |
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| 488655 | 2006-10-03 04:41:00 | I think after a few months of using it we will never look back. Its irrelevant anyway. Eventually (if we want to stay Win users) we will have no choice. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 488656 | 2006-10-03 04:46:00 | Its irrelevant anyway. Eventually (if we want to stay Win users) we will have no choice. this is true but now we have XP would you want to go back to 9x or 3.x?? |
robsonde (120) | ||
| 488657 | 2006-10-03 05:20:00 | No system will ever be invulnerable, but the way the system is set up can alter the required investment to control a computer by many orders of magnitude. Since most users cannot be expected to increase the security level of the system (many will in fact decrease it given an opportunity), it makes sense that the system must be reasonably secure to begin with. With so many completely automated threats for Windows in circulation this is clearly not the case. I remember reading that on the black market access to a home user's infected machine is worth only a few cents. All you have to do is raise the cost of breaking your security above the value to an attacker and they will no longer bother. Skilled hackers will probably be breaking into systems forever but automated and self-propogating threats are completely preventable. |
TGoddard (7263) | ||
| 488658 | 2006-10-03 05:48:00 | No system will ever be invulnerable, but the way the system is set up can alter the required investment to control a computer by many orders of magnitude. Since most users cannot be expected to increase the security level of the system (many will in fact decrease it given an opportunity), it makes sense that the system must be reasonably secure to begin with. With so many completely automated threats for Windows in circulation this is clearly not the case. I remember reading that on the black market access to a home user's infected machine is worth only a few cents. All you have to do is raise the cost of breaking your security above the value to an attacker and they will no longer bother. Skilled hackers will probably be breaking into systems forever but automated and self-propogating threats are completely preventable. Meh, The 3rd wave of exploits will be out before the commercial release of Vista. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 488659 | 2006-10-03 07:57:00 | this is true but now we have XP would you want to go back to 9x or 3.x?? Yes. I'd run DOS if I could |
pctek (84) | ||
| 488660 | 2006-10-03 08:04:00 | Give it a year, eventually new products will come out that require Vista to run, and we will sheepishly upgrade, forgetting this silly debate ever happened. Where are the Win95 supporters or the Win98 supporters now? All quietly gave into to technologies inexorable march and upgraded. |
netchicken (4843) | ||
| 488661 | 2006-10-03 09:18:00 | Where are the Win95 supporters or the Win98 supporters now? All quietly gave into to technologies inexorable march and upgraded. I have a Win95 box running behind me. It does what I want it to do fine. Microsoft hype up Vista so that you think you need it. I see I can go and buy a "Vista Ready pc" now. Wow :eek: |
dolby digital (5073) | ||
| 488662 | 2006-10-03 16:42:00 | . Where are the Win95 supporters or the Win98 supporters now? All quietly gave into to technologies inexorable march and upgraded. When win95 was released it was am "out of this world" experience. It loaded and ran faultlessly. My only complaint was I had just mastered DOS/win3.1 and now I have to start over again. Win98 and then 98se were logical advances on 95. Also no real problems with them. ME was a nothing program. Bill needed the money. Then XP. I used a demo of xp pro. for three months before release.Then on relase day I installed "Home" and have never regretted it. People may complain of it's shortcommings and weaknesses, but not me. In fact I have had several laughs whenever someone finds some secret back door , or whatever. I have never encountered all these hackers and wackers that are just waiting to pounce on my computer. Basic protection has kept them all out. My only problem with XP was with the likes of HP not having printer and scanner drivers for it. So I was looking forward to a pleasant experience with Vista. First the download. I'll be generous and blame the DVD maker and the disk maker. But the installation was a nightmare. Then the program is so slow loading. It looks pretty but to me it produces nothing realy new. You just have to learn new ways to do the same thing, slower! I'll probably give it another try after the final release (a long time after), but in the meantime I'll stick with my beloved XP. JOKE: My wife told me "you have to move with the times". I reminded her that she is running an IBM network with a custom built OS that was written 17 years ago. |
JJJJJ (528) | ||
| 488663 | 2006-10-03 18:42:00 | JJJJ: "It looks pretty but to me it produces nothing realy new. You just have to learn new ways to do the same thing, slower! I'll probably give it another try after the final release (a long time after), but in the meantime I'll stick with my beloved XP." Thats it in a nutshell.The transition from Win98/Me to XP made sense due to XP's stability and use of graphics/media. I suppose Vista will eventually take over because MS will push it down our throats (Vista or nil on a new PC) but as far as XP to Vista upgrades, I see little reason other than to be the 'new kid on the block'. |
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