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Thread ID: 140169 2015-08-28 11:28:00 What Windows 10 Collects about YOU !!!! wainuitech (129) Press F1
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1407583 2015-09-01 22:05:00 Right at the moment I hope MS are collecting data -- Some damn windows update just went in, and all hell has broken lose - everything is crashing, programs not opening, even CMD wouldn't open in safe mode, was going fine last night till the update went in. I've removed it, made it a bit better, at least now its usable. Now to fix it fully -- Just as well I know how.

Do you have a KB number for the update you suspect?
rumpty (2863)
1407584 2015-09-02 00:06:00 All the more reason for keeping updates turned off. My W7's had the updates disabled after Sp1. At one stage I used Zone alarm fire wall, and then Comodo. Is it worth the hassle of training another fire wall?

choosing not to patch your machine with security updates is pretty odd.
nmercer (3899)
1407585 2015-09-02 01:02:00 choosing not to patch your machine with security updates is pretty odd.

On the odd occasion when I have allowed automatic updates it has ended in strife. I sometimes look through the available updates to see if there is anything I need.
mzee (3324)
1407586 2015-09-02 01:04:00 Users have consistently proven they’ll have trade privacy for usability.

At least Microsoft/Facebook/Google/Apple/etc are generally trustworthy and have incentives to keep the data private and well secured

All these random websites and their tracking services are far less trustworthy.
nmercer (3899)
1407587 2015-09-02 01:04:00 Do you have a KB number for the update you suspect? No I don't sorry, Some updates went in (automatically) and needed to restart, on starting everything hung, lagged, or crashed - left it a while to see if it would sort its self out, It didn't . :(

Had similar happen before when Microsoft put out hardware updates that make things worse .

Restarted it, and went into safe mode, tried a few options, settings wouldn't open neither would the control panel, even CMD wouldn't open, they would try , they all would flash then close .

Tried a few things using DaRT, ( Microsoft Diagnostics and Recovery Toolset) but didn't really help - Ended up running system restore back a day and that at least got it working mostly, but still not right .

Ended up putting back a daily backup image from Sunday when it was working fine - when booting, good as gold,:thumbs: ran windows updates manually and no updates were available older than the 28th Sept .
wainuitech (129)
1407588 2015-09-02 02:56:00 On the odd occasion when I have allowed automatic updates it has ended in strife. I sometimes look through the available updates to see if there is anything I need.I've never had a problem with automatic updates breaking anything. I'd take security first any day. pcuser42 (130)
1407589 2015-09-02 06:45:00 choosing not to patch your machine with security updates is pretty odd.

Obfuscating what an update contains seems pretty odd (for a "trustworthy" provider).
fred_fish (15241)
1407590 2015-09-02 06:53:00 Obfuscating what an update contains seems pretty odd (for a "trustworthy" provider).

welcome to the new world. Apple and Google have been doing it for ages.

If it bothers you install the LTSB (Long Term Servicing Branch) of Windows 10 which gets no features, only security updates. Or install Linux where you can inspect the code yourself and determine if you want to install that patch.
nmercer (3899)
1407591 2015-09-02 07:40:00 welcome to the new world. Apple and Google have been doing it for ages.Again - really? So if I spot some local hoodlums beating you up on the street, you'ld be fine if I come along and had a go too? After all you were letting them do it before I arrived...


If it bothers you install the LTSB (Long Term Servicing Branch) of Windows 10 which gets no features, only security updates.No thanks.
Or install Linux where you can inspect the code yourself and determine if you want to install that patch.
Well, yes, you can inspect the code if you want, but updates are generally accompanied by a changelog saying exactly what it's for and what it fixes, not just vague "benefits" (for who, one wonders...).
fred_fish (15241)
1407592 2015-09-02 22:13:00 Very interesting thread indeed, I am not as much a geek so had to read a lot more to understand some of the claims and now I'm freaked. Though not using it. Alexandersim (17382)
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