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| Thread ID: 139334 | 2015-04-16 05:31:00 | 19th Century Technology vs 21st Century: rail vs driverless cars | WalOne (4202) | PC World Chat |
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| 1398677 | 2015-04-16 09:18:00 | Partially, but not entirely. Put more cars on the road without increasing the capacity and you get congestion, something Wellington proved when the rail line was washed away a few years ago. Apples and Oranges. Wellington is built around SH1 and SH2 converging into the CBD. These natural road - or rail - corridors work because they're the only corridors there are. Of course if there's a sudden - and (naturally) unplanned - termination of one or the other alternatives, then there's congestion. If both alternatives are terminated simultaneously then there will be a catastrophic chaos. As in when the fault line along which SH1, SH2 and the rail link that parallels it are wiped out. Wellington is not Auckland. I see your point, but the point of driverless cars is that take the human foibles away from the navigation and control of the individual units, then it may (repeat may) be a solution to maximise the capabilities of the roading system. :D |
WalOne (4202) | ||
| 1398678 | 2015-04-16 09:31:00 | If both alternatives are terminated simultaneously then there will be a catastrophic chaos. Think: all the civil service types in their cardies, with their lunch boxes, spies with their briefcases with pies and copies of Playboy encased therein, converging en masse on foot to our Capital (the one designed by a renowned UK architect on a napkin after an appropriately indulgent luncheon courtesy of the renowned NZ taxpayer). Narrrr. Give me Jaffaland any time. But a Jaffaland without Len's train set. Except the links that I find useful to the CBD and Waiheke. :devil |
WalOne (4202) | ||
| 1398679 | 2015-04-16 10:07:00 | Narrrr. Give me Jaffaland any time. But a Jaffaland without Len's train set. Auckland with the City Rail Link is an Auckland I would prefer to live in, not just as a railfan but as a commuter too. :) |
pcuser42 (130) | ||
| 1398680 | 2015-04-16 13:38:00 | I seriously doubt that Len's upgrade to his train set will make a lot of difference to my travel patterns, except it has to be paid for ad infinitum. It still merely goes from somewhere I'm not, to somewhere I don't want to go. It is very restful on the rare occasion I have used it though. Rail's big problem is it's inflexibility. Any kind of blockage in the system brings it to a halt, there is no practical way to bypass the blockage. When the trains have one of their stoppages, buses are called in to shift the customers. On the other hand, if a bus breaks down it is not too likely a train can shift the passengers. |
R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 1398681 | 2015-04-16 20:14:00 | Rail's big problem is it's inflexibility. Any kind of blockage in the system brings it to a halt, there is no practical way to bypass the blockage. Yes there is, bi-directional signalling. Proved its worth many times over... |
pcuser42 (130) | ||
| 1398682 | 2015-04-16 22:01:00 | Auckland with the City Rail Link is an Auckland I would prefer to live in, not just as a railfan but as a commuter too. :) Likewise. I wasn't really interested in Public Transport until I recently started training from Henderson to Ellerslie each day for my new position at work... Although it takes 55 minutes each way (with a train swap at Newmarket) and expereinced 2 break downs in the last 4 weeks, it's actually more reliable and timely than I thought. Also the new eletric trains they have running on the Southern, Eastern and Onehunga lines are amazing - can't wait to start getting that from Henderson! Also an AT Hop card monthly pass (covers train, bus and ferry) for areas A and B (covers pretty much all of Auckland) is $190.00 a month ~$43.84 p/week, it's a load better than what I'd be paying in petrol and sitting in traffic for the same journey! :2cents: |
lordnoddy (3645) | ||
| 1398683 | 2015-04-16 22:14:00 | Nah give me small town Nelson any day over anywhere North of Cook straight. | gary67 (56) | ||
| 1398684 | 2015-04-16 22:15:00 | So driversless cars will also tow my neighbours boat, be fine towing a caravan, then reverse it down a drive, never have a software glitch & move onto the other side of the road killing any oncoming traffic, or worse plow through a bunch of kidies walking to school because of a glitch ? And will never be maintained correctly , as thats not what kiwis do If anything , driverless cars will cause more traffic, as instead of taking the bus, you you drive to work , then send the car back home . And those who want trains, how about paying for it yourselves, instead of bankrupting AK with a new rail system that we cant afford and will run at a huge loss ,via subsidies paid for by ratepayer/taxpayers. Buses make more sense than trains, we dont need to build new rail systems to run buses. Now wheres my taxpayer subsidy to run my car, dont get one. Why not as bus & train passengers do. :mad: |
1101 (13337) | ||
| 1398685 | 2015-04-16 22:32:00 | Driverless cars will cause Chaos in Wellington. The sheer amount of jaywalkers walking out into the road, causing cars to stop will guarantee no traffic will pass though Bunny St & Thorndon quay between 7:30 and 9am each day. | the_bogan (9949) | ||
| 1398686 | 2015-04-16 23:03:00 | I do wonder: why all trains aren't fully automated yet.....? There are many automated trains, notably the Victoria Line on the London Underground, the Copenhagen Metro and the Docklands Light Railway to name a few. Automated trains have been around for many years. Have a look at en.wikipedia.org |
Roscoe (6288) | ||
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