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| Thread ID: 150365 | 2021-12-23 02:34:00 | Electric cars again | piroska (17583) | PC World Chat |
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| 1483059 | 2021-12-23 02:34:00 | Beijing gave CATL lavish subsidies, a captive market of buyers and soft regulatory treatment, helping it to control a crucial technology of the future. The world's biggest maker of electric car batteries, is a Chinese company now worth more than General Motors and Ford combined. The company already supplies batteries to almost all of the world's automakers, including GM, Volkswagen, BMW and Tesla. C The battery giant stands as a crucial link in a green-technology supply chain increasingly dominated by China. Chinese companies, particularly CATL, have secured vast supplies of the raw materials that go inside the batteries. That dominance has stirred fears in Washington that Detroit could someday be rendered obsolete and that Beijing could control American driving in the 21st century the way that oil-producing nations sometimes could in the 20th. From Detroit to Milan to Wolfsburg, Germany, auto executives who spent their careers trying to perfect pistons and fuel-injection systems are now obsessing about how to compete with a nearly invisible yet formidable industry giant. A rival had released a video suggesting that a technology used by the company, CATL, and other manufacturers could cause car fires. Imitating a Chinese government safety test, the rival had driven a nail through a battery cell, one of many in a typical electric car battery. The cell exploded in a fireball. Chinese officials took swift action — by dropping the nail test. |
piroska (17583) | ||
| 1483060 | 2021-12-23 04:12:00 | I'm sorry but batteries are not no matter how much is claimed be a green technology. | gary67 (56) | ||
| 1483061 | 2021-12-23 04:43:00 | Dead right there overseas the battery cars are powered by coal because that is what charges them up | prefect (6291) | ||
| 1483062 | 2021-12-23 05:01:00 | Not green it's fair to say, but greener than petrol or diesel so a baby step in the right direction. And yeah, coal powered battery cars are still greener than petrol. Here's one source, there are a lot more if you care to look for them www.forbes.com That's about as much interest if I have in arguing that point though so if you're not convinced someone else can take that one. That aside though, whatever the truth about environmental impacts might be, electric cars are coming and petrol is on it's way out. Companies that fail to realise that are risking being left behind, some of the big american giants might be among them. China could well end up dominating the car markets of the world, they seem to be much faster to see an opportunity and react than others. Tesla may be an exception but unless they drastically bring down the price of their cars in the next few years they won't be competing in the same segment of the car market. I'm never buying an $75K+ electric car unless I win lotto, I might buy a $20-$30k one maybe. Or more likely a 5-10 year old one under $15k if such a thing ever exists. |
dugimodo (138) | ||
| 1483063 | 2021-12-23 08:00:00 | Some companies think we're stupid. I smile at the Genesis Energy TV adverts about how their fleet of trucks have gone green by being battery powered. Wonderful except they are delivering LPG. Ken |
kenj (9738) | ||
| 1483064 | 2021-12-23 20:43:00 | Some companies think we're stupid. I smile at the Genesis Energy TV adverts about how their fleet of trucks have gone green by being battery powered. Wonderful except they are delivering LPG. Ken not sure about it being a fleet of trucks, last i heard it was only one. it only does around town, short distance low speed. |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 1483065 | 2021-12-23 22:02:00 | not sure about it being a fleet of trucks, last i heard it was only one. it only does around town, short distance low speed. Aah, there you go then. I fell for it obviously. I probably did what they wanted and assumed it was their fleet. Ken ;) |
kenj (9738) | ||
| 1483066 | 2021-12-24 01:14:00 | It IS their fleet, but not in the sense of "Fleet of Foot" More in the sense of "By Foot is Fleeter" ;) |
R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 1483067 | 2021-12-26 20:40:00 | Here's more craziness: gizmodo.com |
zqwerty (97) | ||
| 1483068 | 2021-12-27 00:08:00 | Here's more craziness: gizmodo.com Yes, crazy alright, this is supposed to be the green replacement, save the world, buy a ****en battery car then throw it away because it's too expensive to replace the battery. Hell yeah. |
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