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495967 2006-11-02 02:02:00 Need some network cabling advise please!
Need to take a cat 5 cable from one PC on a network to another about 100 meters away.
Can I do this without going back to the network router?!
If so - what hardware is required?
Thanks
stuffed (1469)
495968 2006-11-02 02:11:00 Well if u want it to get on the net and most probably to share a folder, you'll need a hub or a xover cable.

But then if its not going thru the router, how is it goling to get on the net?
Speedy Gonzales (78)
495969 2006-11-02 02:29:00 Stuffed a lil more infomation is need. You mention a router, does that mean you have one? Is it safe to assume you have a router and atleast one client PC connected to it? And thus you want to add another PC to the existing network?

Before you do anything your going to have to overcome the problem that ethernet cables max out at 100ft before you need a powered repeater.

Assuming you fix the distance problem you have 2 options:

a) Yes you could simply run a network cable from the existing PC to the new one. You would need to add another NIC and use a crossover cable. Under Windows network settings you can bridge the connections and use ICS to share the internet (the original PC would have to be turned on for the new PC to surf the net). The connection would be limited to 10mbits, not the best for transfering files but fine for sharing internet.

b) The better option would be to run a cable from the router, thus you would obtain full speed and be able to surf the internet independant of the original PC. This is the best option, and realistically cheaper option as you dont need a second NIC.

Not sure how you'd overcome the distance problem, if its inside then a switch at the 50m mark would probably fix the problem. If its outside and you have a clear LOS then wireless might be an option but it wont be cheap.
Pete O'Neil (6584)
495970 2006-11-02 03:50:00 im sure cat6 cable can run for about that distance thomas09 (10276)
495971 2006-11-02 04:14:00 im sure cat6 cable can run for about that distance
Nope. Its not to do with the cable, but the Ethernet standard itself. Have a look here. (en.wikipedia.org) Even if the distance is slightly less than 100m it still might be a good idea to use a repeater as you may still experience packet loss.
Pete O'Neil (6584)
495972 2006-11-02 04:21:00 Thanks for all that info you guys - has been really helpfull. The extra "PC" is actually a CCTV DVR so will have to grovel a internet lead a little closer!
BTW - it is Cat 5 cable from a drum - is there a way to install the cable fittings without having to go to a pro?
Many thanks
stuffed (1469)
495973 2006-11-02 04:29:00 You need a crimping tool, you can buy cheap ones from DSE but theyre useless. You havent got a friend whos an electrician you could borrow one off? Pete O'Neil (6584)
495974 2006-11-02 04:47:00 Failing that, you can get "Tooless Jacks" which will let you put a socket on each end of the cable with nothing more than a pair of sidecutters, and a large pair of pliers. Then you only need a couple of short patch cables. somebody (208)
495975 2006-11-02 05:18:00 If you are terminating cables yourself, be very careful. The cable is made of twisted pairs. You must use the pairs as pairs. One pair goes to pins 1 and 2 of the connectors, the other pair used goes to pins 3 and 6. (the two other pairs go to pins 4 and 5, and 7 and 8). You will probably need to use a crossover connection. Don't try to fit RJ45 plugs without a crimping tool, so fitting sockets on the cable will probably be the best approach ... make that as straight through, then use one straight through and one crossover patch cable. Graham L (2)
495976 2006-11-02 05:51:00 How much would a propper crimping tool cost, and where would you buy it from? Greven (91)
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