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Thread ID: 74207	2006-11-15 00:27:00	CPU replacement / upgrade options / RAID 0 - some questions on what's possible	digikiwi (10681)	Press F1

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499177	2006-11-15 00:27:00	Gday there, My Athlon 939 - 3200 CPU is dead. One of it's pins coroded (rusty) and stayed in the socket (ie broke off the CPU) when I removed the heatsink and CPU (the thermal paste held tight). I know that removing the CPU without raising the lever is not a good idea but there was no other option. The rusty pin shows there was a problem anyhow. I removed the pin from the Socket but there is discoloration in that sockethole. 1) I wonder if this will affect performance or means the Mobo is ready for the landfill? The sensible thing of course would be to test it with a new CPU, which I'll do pending answers below. I run two SATA 120 Gb hard drives in a RAID 0 array on a GA-K8NSC-939 motherboard. The OS is on the Raid 0 array (XP Pro). Here are my questions: 2) Can I replace the CPU with a faster one eg 3500+ as opposed to the 3200+ without reinstalling the Operating system? For example there is a AMD939 3500+ CPU available that is faster AND cheaper. If the motherboard is a goner then I would like to upgrade CPU and motherboard. However I do want to salvage the data on the RAID 0 array. So lets say I get a faster chip and gruntier motherboard, and then use another (IDE) drive for the operating system. 3) Can I still retrieve the data from the two disks in the RAID 0 array even though I'm not booting off them? If yes what steps/ software are needed? Thanks in advance Digikiwi	digikiwi (10681)
499178	2006-11-15 01:46:00	Hi Digi, its not good news I'm afraid mate. The array info is contained within the chipset of the motherboard, therefore if you cant start the PC, you will be unable to retrieve the data. Why did you try remove the CPU? & without releasing with the lever either!!???:illogical If in future you get same problem, you twist/turn the heatsink, so no pressure on CPU As for the upgrade CPU, 3500+ is not likely to show much improvement over your old 3200+, though now that its dead, it will prolly be much better...LOL I would get the dual core chip instead!	SolMiester (139)
499179	2006-11-15 02:27:00	So there is no way at all to recover the data even if the disks in the RAID array have not been overwritten at all?	digikiwi (10681)
499180	2006-11-15 03:59:00	Hi Digi, its not good news I'm afraid mate. The array info is contained within the chipset of the motherboard, therefore if you cant start the PC, you will be unable to retrieve the data. Why did you try remove the CPU? & without releasing with the lever either!!???:illogical I dont think this is right. I could not get my OS to install onto one RAID0 array I was trying to set up. I sent my drives plus WinXP disk to a dealer who started the install on his machine and installed windows on the drive. He then sent them back to me and I put them in my PC and booted up and finished off the configuring and away it went.	Big John (551)
499181	2006-11-15 05:12:00	I dont think this is right. I could not get my OS to install onto one RAID0 array I was trying to set up. I sent my drives plus WinXP disk to a dealer who started the install on his machine and installed windows on the drive. He then sent them back to me and I put them in my PC and booted up and finished off the configuring and away it went. Well, news to me how he did that, will have to check on that:cool:	SolMiester (139)
499182	2006-11-15 05:21:00	Big John, I guess your case was a little different, as I already have OS + Apps + data on the RAID 0 disks. Still, if I understand you correctly, the inference is that it should be possible to access the otherwise intact disks. I hope so. Soulmiester , I'm hoping there is some way to access the data from an operational system, even if the CPU does carry the core configuration for the array. Recovering the OS is low priority. I'll be interested to learn what you find out. Thanks for both your input so far.	digikiwi (10681)
499183	2006-11-15 19:23:00	2) Can I replace the CPU with a faster one eg 3500+ as opposed to the 3200+ without reinstalling the Operating system? Yes.	pctek (84)
499184	2006-11-15 19:27:00	Hi pctek. If yes then great. But how will it affect the chance to recover the raid 0 array? Some seem to think it's impossible, others say the cpu should be the same - I'm a little confused. Any ideas on that one?	digikiwi (10681)
499185	2006-11-15 20:18:00	Normally with hardware RAID cards, you need the same make/model of card to recover your array. With RAID onboard motherboards though i'm not sure it matters too much since they're done with software. You'd be better to buy another motherboard of the same type anyway to be safe. They can be had for fairly cheap: www.pricespy.co.nz	autechre (266)
499186	2006-11-15 22:36:00	Thanks for the timely words. I just put a dual core 4200+ cpu and still no video signal so I think the mobo is a goner. I'll try to get another identical mobo next. BTW yes I did check for compatibility on Gigabytes website.	digikiwi (10681)
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