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| Thread ID: 75485 | 2006-12-31 01:48:00 | Intel Core 2 Duo, IS faster than 1 core in Single threaded apps/games | Master_Frost (9951) | Press F1 |
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| 511249 | 2007-01-02 09:44:00 | What resolution do you play in? and what CPU do you have? I originally had it playing under a P4 3.6Ghz overclocked 8% and a Nvidia 6800Ultra. I had it at resolution of 1280x1024. I now have it under a E6700 not overclocked at all with a Nvidia 8800GTX at 1920x1600 with all the filters turned on full. Looks very nice. Just a shame I cant turn up the autogen anymore and get the cities really full of building as they should be. One thing I did note is the while ActiveSky makes no difference to frame rates and gives excellent weather a 757 addon drops frame rates by 12-16 fps while in 2D mode and 6-10 in VC mode. I hope PDGM 747/MD11/737 does not affect it that much as I am hanging out for them and their FMC/MCP again. |
Big John (551) | ||
| 511250 | 2007-01-02 21:34:00 | I originally had it playing under a P4 3.6Ghz overclocked 8% and a Nvidia 6800Ultra. I had it at resolution of 1280x1024. I now have it under a E6700 not overclocked at all with a Nvidia 8800GTX at 1920x1600 with all the filters turned on full. Looks very nice. Just a shame I cant turn up the autogen anymore and get the cities really full of building as they should be. One thing I did note is the while ActiveSky makes no difference to frame rates and gives excellent weather a 757 addon drops frame rates by 12-16 fps while in 2D mode and 6-10 in VC mode. I hope PDGM 747/MD11/737 does not affect it that much as I am hanging out for them and their FMC/MCP again. Thats a huge resolution change, what makes you think the GPU is not the bottleneck?. The 8800GTX is literally top of the line (very jealous) but can still be bottlenecked. At 1280x1024 the CPU would DEFINITELY be the bottleneck on a 8800GTX however the frame rate should be high enough not to matter/care. As a general rule of thumb, higher CPU's only become the bottleneck at "lower" resolutions where the GPU can easily handle the frame rate, this still stands true for even your card, not knowing much about FSX specifically. If you were running SLI GTX i could imagine your CPU being the bottleneck at 1920x1600. |
Master_Frost (9951) | ||
| 511251 | 2007-01-02 21:56:00 | eer found it took a while Here is a CPU scaling test for a 8800GTX running FEAR (another system hog game) at 1600x1200. As you can see there is nearly no difference in FPS between any of the CPU's as the 8800GTX is the bottleneck. www.legionhardware.com Its a shame they do not show it running at 1024x768 but the story would be quiet different, resolution is everything. In COH however the game is not so graphic intensive so nearly all C2D are able to handle the 8800GTX @1600x1200 while other processors become the bottleneck. www.legionhardware.com So at 1900x1600 in FSX, id be picking a GPU bottleneck. |
Master_Frost (9951) | ||
| 511252 | 2007-01-03 05:44:00 | eer found it took a while So at 1900x1600 in FSX, id be picking a GPU bottleneck. I had it running at 1900x1600 on the 6800Ultra at the same res as well and it was the same (or nearly such). I had the card in the new PC until the new card arrived. The huge load is the autogen scenery in FSX. Turn this off and the cars/boats and then fps are extrememely good and the ground looks good but the cities look like ghost towns. |
Big John (551) | ||
| 511253 | 2007-01-03 06:16:00 | I had it running at 1900x1600 on the 6800Ultra at the same res as well and it was the same (or nearly such). I had the card in the new PC until the new card arrived. The huge load is the autogen scenery in FSX. Turn this off and the cars/boats and then fps are extrememely good and the ground looks good but the cities look like ghost towns. I know there are a few reviews for FSX that believe it is extremely poorly optimised, which wouldn't surprise anyone considering who made it :P Still seriously doubt you are CPU bottlenecked. |
Master_Frost (9951) | ||
| 511254 | 2007-01-03 17:20:00 | [QUOTE= This is a technical forum where some people come for real help, if you can't stay up with the play don't comment as it is counter productive, but to be fair you are far from being the only one.[/QUOTE] I am merely quoting from my own experience. My comments related to two specific cpu's. Higher powered x2 cpu's will naturaly be better. My sc 4000+ is immeasurably better than a x2 4200+ for fs9 and fsx !!!!!!!!!!!!! |
JJJJJ (528) | ||
| 511255 | 2007-01-03 18:21:00 | I am merely quoting from my own experience. My comments related to two specific cpu's. Higher powered x2 cpu's will naturaly be better. My sc 4000+ is immeasurably better than a x2 4200+ for fs9 and fsx !!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes but in that last thread the guy had a Intel C2D that out perform X2, so your blanket comments were misleading don't you think?. There is a Very good reason why when you see a 8800GTX video card review, they use high end C2D to benchmark. They use the fastest CPU's to ensure not to bottleneck the GPU while benchmarking, thats a fact. As for FSX, no one appears to have done a performance scale comparison, it appears to be so poorly optimised nothing would surprise me. It has nice graphics, but far from the best, there seems little excuse for such poor performance. I notice a lot of people are saying this. |
Master_Frost (9951) | ||
| 511256 | 2007-01-03 19:19:00 | Yes but in that last thread the guy had a Intel C2D that out perform X2, so your blanket comments were misleading don't you think?. There is a Very good reason why when you see a 8800GTX video card review, they use high end C2D to benchmark. They use the fastest CPU's to ensure not to bottleneck the GPU while benchmarking, thats a fact. As for FSX, no one appears to have done a performance scale comparison, it appears to be so poorly optimised nothing would surprise me. It has nice graphics, but far from the best, there seems little excuse for such poor performance. I notice a lot of people are saying this. Yes, but how many people have,or can afford, a 8800 vid card, let alone a top x2 cpu? In an FS forum I belong to the average pc is something like a 3200+ (or Intel equivelant). Also you must remember that when fs9 was released we all complained about the poor quality and how it wouldn't run properly on our computers.I am convinced that MS deliberately design the sim for addons to be written for it. Give FSX another year or two and we will probably as happy with it as we are now with fs9. |
JJJJJ (528) | ||
| 511257 | 2007-01-03 19:40:00 | Jack This thread is not directed at specifically you. Just anyone making statements statements like Single core is faster in single core apps, which is now untrue with the introduction of Intel C2D 7 odd months ago. As for who can afford a high end DC, try a $300 E6300 and overclock to the same performance as a $1600 processor. However i accept not everyone wants to overclock, but many enthusiast do as its so incredibly easy. hardwarezone.com |
Master_Frost (9951) | ||
| 511258 | 2007-01-03 22:46:00 | Thanks Master_Frost, for this thread :) Jack, keep up the input mate, thats what PF1's here for! |
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