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Thread ID: 140455 2015-10-14 22:26:00 Fibre broadband is it really fast or just hype? undiejuice (16495) Press F1
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1409909 2015-10-20 06:42:00 [QUOTE=Digby;1233355
And I'd rather we were a bigger isolated country.
It would make things far more vibrant and cost effective.

There are hundreds of cities in the world with more people than NZ.[/QUOTE]

Doesn't make them better. Personally I'd rather we were not any bigger.
We do get ripped off on some things, but we also have some unrealistic expectations at times. Running a fibre cable from NZ to anywhere is not a trivial undertaking and nobody will spend that kind of money without a reasonable expectation of a good return.

Anyway, back to the original topic :) Fibre is better. Maybe not as much better as expected but the cost is similar so why not adopt it.
dugimodo (138)
1409910 2015-10-20 06:59:00 So do those lucky people in Japan and South Korea need to worry about the latest browser etc.

No, its just that here in NZ we are being sold a pup with UFB.
When it slows to a halt with Netflicks etc, then maybe our politicians will force South Pacific Cable and Chorus to give us some decent speeds.
Netflix (New Zealand) won't be going over the Southern Cross Cable.
decibel (11645)
1409911 2015-10-20 09:59:00 If they already waived the $1000 install fee as you claimed, that's pretty good of them... Agent_24 (57)
1409912 2015-10-21 17:48:00 Can't see how fibre can be a bad decision considering ISPs advertise it for the same price as ADSL.

I agree, that is what I noticed too. Cheers.
undiejuice (16495)
1409913 2015-10-21 18:45:00 Hi dugimodo,

Interesting reading. Thanks for your input by the way. My fibre is going to be installed today above ground; over the roof of my house so I cannot wait to see the end result.
undiejuice (16495)
1409914 2015-10-21 18:50:00 We looked at getting fibre, it was cheaper than what we had at the time.......

but :( because of the house being on a hill and the road below us, the cable would skim the cars in the driveway...so they said not possible unless we want to pay for a new frame for the roof to make it higher up............... and he said would be no speed change on what we currently have, he just said we may get better stability. the last time I got a frame / aerial / stand thing made it was over $800 and I dont have that sort of $$ so we canceled it. well hopefully its cancelled lol

Man, that must sux. Sorry to hear that.
undiejuice (16495)
1409915 2015-10-21 18:58:00 To ALL of the people here who have contributed to this forum, I would like to say a big mighty thanks. It has been very helpful and insightful reading peoples experiences and advice. I did not think this conversation would continue, so I thought at least to drop by and say thanks anyway.

Cheers.
undiejuice (16495)
1409916 2015-10-22 00:59:00 Netflix (New Zealand) won't be going over the Southern Cross Cable.

Not entirely true.
It depends on a lot of things. I know Vibe have a local cache, but in order to have a local cache they expect you to be doing a few gigabits during peak, and they also expect something like a 5gbps pipe to another of their CDNs (Sydney for example).

So it's entirely possible that Netflix NZ comes from Australia etc
Chilling_Silence (9)
1409917 2015-10-22 01:04:00 At this stage I am not prepared to pay extra for a faster plan as that may not give me much faster speeds anyway.
It seems that once again here in NZ were are behind the state of the art technology they have in places like Japan or South Korea.

So we can probably blame the South Pacific Cable owners.

Actually the _main_ cost if you have a 30/10 or 100/20 UFB connection, goes to Chorus. Roughly 50% goes straight from your ISP to Chorus.
This leaves them with very little for:
- Tech support
- Accounting and billing
- General business infrastructure
- Technical infrastructure
- Buying routers to 'give' or 'lease' to customers
- And finally, international bandwidth

Speeds will vary depending on your ISP, how fast they're racing to the bottom with their pricing, and subsequently how much they're oversubscribing their international bandwidth.
Chilling_Silence (9)
1409918 2015-10-22 01:31:00 Not entirely true.
It depends on a lot of things. I know Vibe have a local cache, but in order to have a local cache they expect you to be doing a few gigabits during peak, and they also expect something like a 5gbps pipe to another of their CDNs (Sydney for example).

So it's entirely possible that Netflix NZ comes from Australia etc

I thought most of the big ISP's had confirmed (or not denied in some cases) that they had Netflix Open Connect boxes in their infrastructure.
Alex B (15479)
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