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Thread ID: 75722	2007-01-08 03:57:00	How much would a PC like this set me back?	Motokid600 (11183)	Press F1

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513882	2007-01-09 17:49:00	Pffft! No such thing! :D It was mostly the hard drive space that I was refering to as being overkill Greg and judging by some of the "dream machine' setups mentioned on here by other PF1 members motokid's RAID setup is definitely either overkill or more money than brains. I think plods comment was actually spot on though ;).	winmacguy (3367)
513883	2007-01-09 20:59:00	My point was that his dream computer specs were overkill for a PC gaming machine I agree with Greg here, you can NEVER have a powerful enough machine these days with all the power hungry games out there... as for the HDD space, I know a lot of people who have ove 1TB of storage and are/have run out...	The_End_Of_Reality (334)
513884	2007-01-09 21:11:00	I agree with Greg here, you can NEVER have a powerful enough machine these days with all the power hungry games out there... as for the HDD space, I know a lot of people who have ove 1TB of storage and are/have run out... Thanks for the explantion. I was actually saying that it sounded like a lot to pay for for just 4GB of RAM although the price does take into account some top end garphics cards and two hi end monitors which will set you back a few bills. How much does the amount of RAM factor into gaming? compared to say Core2Duo chip?	winmacguy (3367)
513885	2007-01-09 21:18:00	Why bum around with normal SATA. Get 4x Ultra SCSI 320 with 15,000 RPM HDDs in a SCSI RAID :D Adaptec Ultra SCSI 320 PCI Express card. If you wanna get a kick out of it and show off with your geeky friends get them off eBay, I heard the low capacities are pretty cheap if you don't download or store too much crap, the PCI-X is pretty affordable as well. You will then have more disk speeds than a typical printing bureau :angry If it was me, a computer no more than $1200-1400NZD and a 2nd hand monitor CRT and pinch the mouse and keyboard from my old one. I could get a new one each yr compared to that dream computer. I doubt very much that would still be a dream computer after a few yrs. Or are you gonna upgrade to another dream computer each yr or two? :waughh: For $7500NZ or $5000US, that for me is enof for least 2 international trips all cost included or more if I hit a closer destination (but still international). Now don't tell me you want to go to a villa in a 6 star hotel and dine a table next to George Clooney with a limosine pickup at the airport :thumbs: If I were to upgrade I get a moderate PC for the price stated, pretty avg really dual core basic CPU, a avg or just above avg GPU, 1 or 2GB DDR, one HDD that's about it, grab my current DVDRW, use a router wired than a PCI Wifi card. Basic case with a Enermax case, 2nd hand monitor, current mouse and keyb. I don't care if I get higher specs than other pple, I don't need to use the game at insane high settings and my eye probably cannot detect anyway. I been using a laptop since 2001 with a 12 inch screen, P3. Its been good cannot play games or photo's but for normal work its fine with its 1 inch thickness. I use that everyday til now and yet to get an upgrade. Cannot remember the last time I got a windows error.	Nomad (952)
513886	2007-01-09 21:49:00	A computer is pretty boring really. A beige color square box of wires. Its not going to change your life. Are you going spend your social life in your own room and typing computer texting messages to strangers you met on the net. I just got broadband not long ago. Its great to free up the line and I use modest so it becomes around $40 or less a month. With these things pple are downloading tv shows on the net, sometimes I missed a free to air tv show here, so I tried downloading it, man its a lot of donkey work and then it can be superslow. I rather just pop the VCR on timer mode with a scheduler programmed. So it may do every day or every week day or every friday at this start time to this end time. DVD ones are a bit over the top for me because you are just recording tv shows. I arn't getting newer downloads earlier b/c I arn't gonna download every week for a episode just to keep up with it. Never tried movies but my ISP refunds me if I don't use all my GBs, one GB measures out to be a $1, provided you need to upload as well so its $2 in total, I prefer a $4 dvd hire or a $8 movie ticket. I may try out the free to air international channels 2hr or 4hr dramas though. We have international channels on top our our Sky (cable subscription) TV here but they tend to have the series shows only and not any drama movies. For the series its just too many I arn't gonna download them even if we get them late here, they are like 1hr for each week day. 1hr show for me can range up to 24hr damn it... Some range from 2-3 months usually. One I know is even going on over a year. Some pple leave them downloading while they are out or asleep but I arnt going with that .. Its just so much easier you can turn the TV on and its on, you can also watch news, documentaries - try downloading that as well or try downloading a few hours of tv shows off the net each day. For me I get a life doing other stuff.	Nomad (952)
513887	2007-01-09 22:05:00	How much does the amount of RAM factor into gaming? compared to say Core2Duo chip? Well it all depends on the amount in to start with, if you are running 512MB of RAM and trying to run FEAR for example lets say with a 3500+ and 256MB 7600GT, you will probably be best upgrading the RAM rather than the CPU, but if it were 2GB of RAM the system had then I would say the best would be to upgrade the CPU. The RAM stores the maps (and other things) for the game so as that it is not running on the HDD all the time trying to load the maps on the fly, this increases prformance by a lot, more than any CPU can do if you have a small amount of RAM cause the bottle neck is the HDD caused by the RAM, not the CPU. But with different amounts of RAM the bottleneck shifts to the GPU or CPU.	The_End_Of_Reality (334)
513888	2007-01-09 23:01:00	The only reason I ask is because I tend to think more in terms of graphic type apps that I am used to and things like engineering and DV rendering where the more RAM you can give them the better off you are as well as the ability to distribute or multitask the processes- on top of something like a hi spec'd Core2Duo set up or even dual chip set up. However the GPU requirements are not quite as crucial as they are in gaming. Bit of a continual learning process for me.	winmacguy (3367)
513889	2007-01-10 02:23:00	A computer is pretty boring really. A beige color square box of wires. Its not going to change your life. Are you going spend your social life in your own room and typing computer texting messages to strangers you met on the net. Beige? Since when? I haven't had a beige PC in ages. And getting my first PC did change my life. Well at least my career. Nope don't spend my social life typing tostrangers. Spend it playing games. :D	pctek (84)
513890	2007-01-10 04:10:00	A computer is pretty boring really. A beige color square box of wires. Its not going to change your life. Well beige or black pretty much unless your talking customized Alienware boxes. You have obviously never paid close attention to a G3 iMac G4 Cube or Tower, G5 Mac Pro Tower, G5 iMac etc	winmacguy (3367)
513891	2007-01-10 04:35:00	Well beige or black pretty much unless your talking customized Alienware boxes. You have obviously never paid close attention to a G3 iMac G4 Cube or Tower, G5 Mac Pro Tower, G5 iMac etc Oh .. yup :p I have seen a hybrid before, a friend bought a Compaq from Noel Leeming and it had interchangeable colors you can pull and pop on like red, blue, gray and other colors :thumbs: (behind a dominant beige case) :D	Nomad (952)
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