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Thread ID: 75759 2007-01-09 08:32:00 Replacement For AVG? JohnnyR (9277) Press F1
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514227 2007-01-09 10:55:00 I don't know how good it is but Avast was on the magazine CD recently. I assume you are using Windows. I was using AVG for Linux but don't know if the new 7.5 is either free or available for Linux yet. Consequently, i am running without antivirus at present. However, I do have the firewall configured so should be OK.

Jim

I wasn't personally aware of any Linux viruses?:confused:
winmacguy (3367)
514228 2007-01-09 13:04:00 I recommend free avast! instead of Avg (which I used to have ), as it automatically updates itself painlessly with no downloads to worry about and does a very good job. Laura (43)
514229 2007-01-09 17:30:00 I wasn't personally aware of any Linux viruses?:confused:

Neither was I. Laura mentioned Avast - a recent CD from our magazine contained the Linux version of Avast as well as the Windows one. I did try installing it into Xandros 3.0 and it made the distro unusable. Haven't tried it again. Also run Xandros 3.02 Open Circulation Edition and Xandros 4.0 Home Premium Trial.

Jim
Hhel (8073)
514230 2007-01-09 17:54:00 Neither was I. Laura mentioned Avast - a recent CD from our magazine contained the Linux version of Avast as well as the Windows one. I did try installing it into Xandros 3.0 and it made the distro unusable. Haven't tried it again. Also run Xandros 3.02 Open Circulation Edition and Xandros 4.0 Home Premium Trial.

Jim

I always understood that part of the reason for using Linux was that running with limited user permissions by default ment that viruses, adware and spyware were unable to install themselves without the user doing it first which is what made it secure, unlike Windows hence NO antivirus software required. :confused:
winmacguy (3367)
514231 2007-01-09 18:15:00 I recommend free avast! instead of Avg (which I used to have ), as it automatically updates itself painlessly with no downloads to worry about and does a very good job.

I don't understand that...

AVG Free updates every time I log on...sometimes in the middle of being online too...... this is with DSL...but a friend or two on dial get their's the same way..AUTOMATICALLY!
SurferJoe46 (51)
514232 2007-01-09 18:49:00 I always understood that part of the reason for using Linux was that running with limited user permissions by default ment that viruses, adware and spyware were unable to install themselves without the user doing it first which is what made it secure, unlike Windows hence NO antivirus software required. :confused:

I agree with you. That is why I now use all of my three Linux distros with no antivirus. Your comments make me more confident of my safety.

Jim
Hhel (8073)
514233 2007-01-09 18:53:00 I agree with you . That is why I now use all of my three Linux distros with no antivirus . Your comments make me more confident of my safety .

Jim

Its also part of the same reason why people use OS X over Windows . People on this forum tend to prefer Linux because they can run it on any existing PC setup they want . Incidently I see the iPhone has been officially announced this morning .
winmacguy (3367)
514234 2007-01-10 00:32:00 Hey both of youse guys . . .

I sense a certain "in your face" here . . . and I just know that I'll get corrected if I am wrong, but:

Isn't it considered "nice" to run some sort of anti virus program on your L-machines just for the sake of those who get mail or files or enclosures from you?

I thought it was noted that although YOU may not be at risk, e-mail receivers with Windows-based machines might be the recipient of your portrayal of "Typhoid Mary" carrying something to them?

I just wonder if (and again, I MIGHT be all off-base here) that this cavalier attitude toward Windows might . . . just might . . . somehow cause a little . . . how can I say this nicely . . . "resentment" of "L" users by others?

Now . . don't get me wrong here . . . I like Mepis and Ubuntu and things L . . . but I want to make the ethernet safe for everybody . . . . not just iggy those who cannot or will not capitulate to the "better" system .

If I offend, I am sorry . . . it's just the tone of the posting that makes me wonder . . . as I am sure you both are the right type of people . . . . right?
SurferJoe46 (51)
514235 2007-01-10 01:08:00 Hey both of youse guys . . .

I sense a certain "in your face" here . . . and I just know that I'll get corrected if I am wrong, but:

Isn't it considered "nice" to run some sort of anti virus program on your L-machines just for the sake of those who get mail or files or enclosures from you?
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It is only considered a necessity to run any sort of antivirus software if you run a Windows PC simply because of the way Windows was originally designed and in some ways it still is . Windows was and still is designed for XP at least for full admin access by default which leaves a gaping hole on a new PC for the unwary user .
I am not trying to be "In your face" with regards to my comments . I was quering why you needed any antivirus for Linux since one of the strong selling points for Linux or Mac OS X for that matter is that there are NO known viruses for either . There are ONLY Windows viruses . Both Linux OS and Mac OS X run with limited user permissions and what is called no_root_access (or something similar) to the kernel . This means that if your wanting to instal an app on your Linux or Mac OS (most here prefer Linux) you have to give your password before doing so- just keeping 100% of known viruses and spyware from installing themselves by themselves on your system .

That is also why there are over 140,000 known viruses for Windows OS and NONE (that I know of) for Linux or Mac OS X .
winmacguy (3367)
514236 2007-01-10 02:17:00 It is only considered a necessity to run any sort of antivirus software if you run a Windows PC simply because of the way Windows was originally designed and in some ways it still is. Windows was and still is designed for XP at least for full admin access by default which leaves a gaping hole on a new PC for the unwary user.
I am not trying to be "In your face" with regards to my comments. I was quering why you needed any antivirus for Linux since one of the strong selling points for Linux or Mac OS X for that matter is that there are NO known viruses for either. There are ONLY Windows viruses. Both Linux OS and Mac OS X run with limited user permissions and what is called no_root_access (or something similar) to the kernel. This means that if your wanting to instal an app on your Linux or Mac OS (most here prefer Linux) you have to give your password before doing so- just keeping 100% of known viruses and spyware from installing themselves by themselves on your system.

That is also why there are over 140,000 known viruses for Windows OS and NONE (that I know of) for Linux or Mac OS X.

So, in a sense one could say, it's not really windows that's the security issue, but the user:confused: If someone was really meticulous and set up windows with stringent permissions then maybe there wouldn't be such a need for AV software. Or is this faulty reasoning?
jcr1 (893)
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